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Help Needed: Super charger hoses

Old Dec 27, 2021 | 09:39 PM
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Default Help Needed: Super charger hoses [Resolved]

I'm planning to do a complete overhaul on the cooling system, so I am collecting part numbers and this is where I got stuck: red, red (dotted) & yellow hoses.



And this is from BARRATT's catalogue:


Am I looking at the correct diagram? Can anybody help me identify these hoses? Thanks in advance.
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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 08:15 AM
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I found the dotted red hose... part # NCC7723AA.


 
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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 12:25 PM
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Thanks to Dan @ Jagbits, the part numbers are identified.
Red hose: C2N1592 (#19 on the 1st diagram)
Yellow hose: C2N2615 (radiator lower hose)
Red dotted one: NCC7723AA (#11 on the 2nd diagram)
 

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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 12:30 PM
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Not cheap. I wander if it would be possible to replace them all with solid pipes? Or just an alternative.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 08:58 AM
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When I go to auto zone, pep, O'Reilly's or the big box type parts suppliers they will let me go into their back stock sections and handle any and all of the hoses. Can match things up, see what hoses I could use to make cuts, match angles etc... Hoses don't have to be so expensive...

Wish I could say this for my last hose HIT... A 9 inch hose, curves and corners, reinforced, from throttle body to idle air stabilizer to intake ---- 91$ with shipping. When I am charged like that by parts suppliers it really boils ME blood...
 
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JayJagJay
When I go to auto zone, pep, O'Reilly's or the big box type parts suppliers they will let me go into their back stock sections and handle any and all of the hoses. Can match things up, see what hoses I could use to make cuts, match angles etc... Hoses don't have to be so expensive...

Wish I could say this for my last hose HIT... A 9 inch hose, curves and corners, reinforced, from throttle body to idle air stabilizer to intake ---- 91$ with shipping. When I am charged like that by parts suppliers it really boils ME blood...
Great idea. I think the small hose (dotted red one) can be purchased at a local autozone. For others, I need to figure out how to decompose and reassemble with common shape hoses.
Thanks!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by szhilian39
Great idea. I think the small hose (dotted red one) can be purchased at a local autozone. For others, I need to figure out how to decompose and reassemble with common shape hoses.
Thanks!
It really can hurt to try, ya know... All the tee's I think can be saved and used on the new sections. My R is new to me and from what I have seen and remember I don't think there is anything 'special' about them upper sections of supercharger coolant hoses.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 09:49 PM
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These hoses are available from welsh. The close turns and old plastic junctions are not doable with off the shelf hoses, the plastic will fail if you try to tighten up new clamps on them. just bite the bullet and get the correct hose. If the lower rad hose is not made just right, it will rub on the power steering pulley and become a fountain when you least expect it.






 
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmots
These hoses are available from welsh. The close turns and old plastic junctions are not doable with off the shelf hoses, the plastic will fail if you try to tighten up new clamps on them. just bite the bullet and get the correct hose. If the lower rad hose is not made just right, it will rub on the power steering pulley and become a fountain when you least expect it.
^^^^^^^ +1

what he said ! Trying to save a few dollars on these cars by using non-OEM parts usually ends up costing several times any attempted savings. Aftermarket hoses in particular seem to be destined for failure. If intent on using URO or other substandard parts then keep handy the phone number of your friendly tow truck driver.

Or, Just buy the Jaguar labeled part to begin with and safe yourself time, money, and aggravation.

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Old Jan 7, 2022 | 07:51 AM
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Umm, replacing coolant hoses up top the engine is easy, nothing to worry about and no big deal. They are simple to match up and work with, They are coolant hoses for goodness sake. Common, readily available at any auto house... A soft rubber 90 degree elbow on the top of the SC intake MUST be an OEM part, according to a part number, as mandatory, really?

Mine are not suggestions for off or to the rad hoses, at all.

I have 4 older "sporty" type cars, and if I bought some kinda OEM part for everything I've needed and replaced owning these amazing machines (at least for me) owning them wouldn't be possible.

Tones of "perfect" or nothing at all on forums really gets my goat. The tone makes the idea of owning, rescuing and caring for these cars SEEM prohibitive financially. Seem overly difficult if not impossible for securing needed parts... Inflated costs and high ideas is huge part of the reason so many of these cars (earlier Jaguars especially) ended up in crushers. Really a pity if ya ask me. We aught to resist these notions, not be encouraging them.

One of the most IMPORTANT contributors (and great brains) of the 928 forum I belong to specializes in providing alternatives to the overly absorbant parts prices, the markups and premiums, billed in the "OEM" idea that comes with owning, driving and saving these amazing machines. Thanks to him I have learned that there is more than one way to skin a Cat - or a Jaguar, lol. I crack myself up 🤣

Anyways, for each his/her own...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2022 | 07:58 AM
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I would love to have a low(er) cost quality alternative for many of the specialty hoses.

However, at the same time I am realistic and paying attention when I read post after post detailing aftermarket parts, especially hoses, that have failed to give reliable service. When new aftermarket parts fail it’s not much of a bargain to purchase them, is it…. ???

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Old Jan 7, 2022 | 10:08 AM
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To produce this special hoses you need an expensive blow molding machine, an expensive mold and there is little labor involved. Even if you do it in a low cost country, the only way to make it cheap is to use cheap materials. That is not what you want.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2022 | 10:31 AM
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I've heard terrible reputations about ERO parts from various auto forums (Bimmer, Mercedes, etc)
I am wondering if "Eurospare" (new to me) parts are better quality. Anybody has experiences with them?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2022 | 11:17 AM
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I easily find Gates, Continental and a lot of different silicone alternatives, products/hose... Easy. And Ts,,, and other connectors. All available.

Lately I've been considering a TR6,,, thinking about what it would take to place a aj16 engine in a 69-74 Triumph... I know there will be a need to modify the coolant hose (and other things) non-OEM... All do-able.

Honestly,,, I don't know what y'all are talking about.
 

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Old Jan 7, 2022 | 11:18 AM
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 02:44 PM
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I have bought Eurospare drilled brake rotors for the Brembos that saved me serious money. They work fine and cost a third of OEM ($600 ea). If you save $400 per wheel, that adds up! I have bought used, aftermarket and OEM parts for the car, depending on what is needed and what makes sense. I drive the XKR as a toy but I do not want a breakdown either.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmots
”…..I have bought used, aftermarket and OEM parts for the car, depending on what is needed and what makes sense. I drive the XKR as a toy but I do not want a breakdown either.…..”.
^^^^^^^ +1

I pick and choose also. My primary guidance are the experiences that forum members post here. If I read that several people have had issues with aftermarket parts that turn out to be substandard then it’s prudent to listen and learn from the experiences related.

Therefore based on the forum reports when possible I avoid aftermarket ignition parts and aftermarket hoses. But I will use aftermarket parts when they are superior as in EBC brake pads vs OEM pads, and also use aftermarket rotors that are giving me good service.

My car is not my weekend toy, but my daily driver. With the help of forum members it has been an extremely reliable car going on 5 years and 60,000+ miles under my ownership. It has been a joy to drive around town as well as on numerous cross country expeditions.

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