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Old 05-17-2012, 04:39 PM
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Can anyone say if the OBD2 port an a 2002 4.2 XK8 uses the K-line or CAN bus or both for diagnostics to the engine ECU.
 
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The 4.2 (I thought introduced in 2003) data link connector uses 3 systems for communication:
CAN, SCP and Serial data link.

I believe K-line normally uses pin 7 for communication. There is no connection to pin 7 in the data link connector.
 
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The 4..2 came out on Q4 2002 in the UK, not sure about the rotw.

Well I was a bit surprised when I used my AE cable as it indicated that it was connecting using ISO-9141 which uses the K-line.

Are there any diagrams showing the obd topology or a list showing which bus is used for which module?
 
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The 4..2 came out on Q4 2002 in the UK, not sure about the rotw.

Well I was a bit surprised when I used my AE cable as it indicated that it was connecting using ISO-9141 which uses the K-line.

Are there any diagrams showing the obd topology or a list showing which bus is used for which module?

The topology is in section 21 here: http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Auto.../jagxk2003.pdf

Just FYI, the topology changed significantly with the switch from the 4.0 to the 4.2.
 
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Hmm, well thats odd, Ill have anothar play around with it tonight.
 
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My reader definitely uses the ISO-9141 protocol (on a UK car)
 
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What is the plan?
 
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This video shows just a few features, it also does lots of other stuff, dyno plots, 0 to 60, 0 to 100 timing etc. All data comes from the diagnostics port using a proprietary VAG protocol.

Since Kin now has a Jag I am thinking about adapting it, but it will be a fair amount of effort so there are no timescales.

It started life just as a boost gauge, that grew legs.

liquidA3 (8P Chassis) test run - YouTube
 

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Haven't mastered the onboard networks yet, but the Serial Data Link (ISO 9141) is used for Diagnostics at 10.4 Kbaud.

But I think the IDS is also communicating via the CAN bus to the ECU, as I can monitor that traffic, and the IDS gets much more data per second than via standard OBDII interfaces (so Kline then).

 
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