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No Lo beam or Hi beam??
I have a 2002 XKR with auto headlight, and rain sensor features.
My inside rearview mirror does not stay in place because the tabs are broken.
I have searched for last couple days in this XKR forums but have no found solution.
2 weeks ago while driving home late nite, I noticed that none of my headlight were working.
Checked all the fuses/relays in cabin, and in engine compartment >> all OK
Shunted relay pins 3+ 5, HI and Lo beams work.>> Bulbs are OK, went ahead and replaced Relay 3 & 5 >>> still no lite
Toggle hi/lo beam WILL flash beams.
Turn signal work.
I am thinking that maybe this switchgear at the steering column is broken??
anyone has encountered this issues? or have idea where to look?
I appreciate any feedback... Thanks
Thanks for the suggestion Michaelh
I read the thread and decided to take the stalk off for inspection.
It was a task to remove the cowling shell as my steering wheel was stuck in up position against dash. ( No in/out or up/down " ANOTHER FIX ???" )
I had to remove steering wheel and the 2 screws under column to lower it and finally have room to get upper shell off.
Everything is so tightly packed that you could not see back of switch or wires or pulled out the switch easily; could not find loose wire....
After fiddling for 3hrs I had to put it back together as it was getting dark. I think I have a loose ground as I notice that sometimes my turn signal blinks faster as I turn.
It will have to wait when I have a full day to take this completely apart.
This is from memory so apologies if I have it wrong.
There are 2 Allen bolts that hold the horn/face of the steering wheel on. They are interesting to get to but if you place your hand in the BACK of the wheel while you turn it you will feel the two holes to insert the allen. With the wheel up like that (and there is a fix for the locked up adjustment motor in other threads which is pretty easy) it will be tight but a socketed allen with a small extension might help.
From there,,, SLOWLY remove the face of the wheel. SLOWLY!!! There are two tabbed plugs that control the airbag. Unclip these and set the face aside. There is a whole world going in in there - like the locker in Men in Black, lol. From there the entire left and right controls for the whipers, signals, lights etc are/is there as one unit. Can be removed and worked with and the plugs, wiring and such will be visible and much more accessible... That's IF I remember right.
The interesting part is getting that padded horn cover off, but you can do it.
JayJagJay
getting steering wheel, air bag off was simple; the clock spring and switchgear assembly wirings are so tight that I could not see if they all came off as 1 assembly or can the turn switch comes off by itself.
I ran out of daylight anyway and had to put it back together before it got too dark.
will try again this week end.
JayJagJay
getting steering wheel, air bag off was simple; the clock spring and switchgear assembly wirings are so tight that I could not see if they all came off as 1 assembly or can the turn switch comes off by itself.
I ran out of daylight anyway and had to put it back together before it got too dark.
will try again this week end.
Ahhh, ohhh, that clock spring...! That's right! The one with the band wound up inside, yes??? I had forgotten about it and, I'm sure it's separate from the stalks.... Pretty sure. Fiddly and a pain in the butt...
You're a better wrangler than me if you found that wheel face to be a snap. I get frustrated with stuff like that, in tight spaces and angles.
I hope that this IS the thing that is causing your problem!
And,,, be careful with that ribbon in the clock spring. I don't remember how/if I had damaged mine or how the issue with mine came about but it is something that I had to replace way back in the beginning in learning about the XK8... It wasn't the easiest find hunting the web...
Just in case. Crazy me I found the example photo and didn't think to throw up the link for the results that came up on eBay... This is the whole assembly and if push comes to shove,,, well, you know...
Again, from memory. Be careful with that ribbon and all the do dad's. Theyz old at this point and subject to giving headaches... https://www.ebay.com/itm/233989311826
Took this switchgear assembly out and sure enough there is a broken wire (right at solder joint)
It is solid blue and comes from the turn signal stalk but there do not seem to be any other similar color wire??
Hope that one of you veteran can point me to where it supposed to be connected.
I am searching the forum to see if anyone posted in the past,
Study the electrical drawings, but could not find where in hell this ble wire goes to.
additional forum search said to connect to an Orange wire?? none t be seen around the stalk..
went back to car for a 6th look and closeup of each connector and finally found a small piece of bare wire protruding from a connector with a " Blue/ Yellow" wire attached.
Length of that blue wire barely reaches it. so that would be best logical bet
Reroute this Blue wire so it is not so tight and solder it back.
Put all back together, test..... VOILA !!!
I have lights again
yeah, that was a b***, hope someone else can benefit from experience...
Lesson learn is that any headlight issue IS likely from wire broken/loose at switch gear stalk... I did not believe it but it is what it is...
It is a pain to diagnose but even with my Electronic engineering background it took me 3 days and over 12hrs to fix it.
Would have cost me $$$K at a repair shop and no guarantee....ELBOW GREASE... I do not think there is any mechanic better suited than I am at troubleshooting this....
NEXT WILL BE IN/OUT UP/DOWN STEERING WHEEL ....
Took this switchgear assembly out and sure enough there is a broken wire (right at solder joint)
It is solid blue and comes from the turn signal stalk but there do not seem to be any other similar color wire??
Hope that one of you veteran can point me to where it supposed to be connected.
I am searching the forum to see if anyone posted in the past,
Nice... Great find!
I'm ALWAYS amazed at just how vital nearly everything is in a car and the ability to operate it safely and rightly. I mean, it doesn't take much to make it so ya just CAN'T use the doggone thing without worry. One solder joint and the hunt has to be on...
Last edited by JayJagJay; May 23, 2021 at 09:32 PM.
The switch stalk is not available as a separate item.
My guess is that Jaguar's specification will only indicate the required wiring colour convention at the connector (SC2). leaving the manufacturer free to follow its own for 'internal' parts.
The 2000 and 2003 diagrams are the same in that area.
Do you think a broken wire in this assembly could be the cause of one of my headlights and parking lights not being functional? Both high beams work fine. I may have to take this apart and look. My steering wheel functions like it should, thankfully
It is possible, but before tearing down thru this switchstalk. II would check Fuses and Relays.
Exterior Right/Left lights are protected by separate fuse and relay, so if you lose 1 side it would likely be a fuse or relay. or a bad bulb...
Extreme, I agree with Ray. 1 wire controls both sides on this board.
I've had to resolver mine 2 or 3 times. I'm convinced it was from me switching from momentary high beams (start pulled back to momentary position) to high beams (stalk in forward switched position) by allowing the spring return action from momentary to snap the stalk forward to high beam settings (lazy? Acting cool in my head? - who knows, but I paid for it ;-)).
No Headlight??
