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Old 01-11-2013, 05:58 AM
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For those of us who have owned E types, you practically had to post an armed guard on them to keep some bozo from putting a jack under the radiator support thus driving the radiator up thru the bonnet. SOAB

Some owners had to buy new bonnets as they became unrepairable after the 3rd occurrence. I knew then that I could never be a "killer" as I let the mutt off with only a beat down.
 
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:56 AM
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They are very lightweight; all were IN the pickup, none were actually at the bottom of the pan.
I caught a glimpse of them when i looked up at the oil pickup with the light at the right angle.
 
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:03 PM
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When engine blocks are manufactured, they go through a heat-treating process and then sprayed with a shellac type material to insure no oxidation occurs before the final machining and assembly is done, so that may explain the differences in color from one side to the other.

I tend to agree that it was probably an engine assembly person's last day on the job and he decided to make his last engine build a memorable one.

I had a relative who purchased a new pickup, and from day-1 there was an annoying 'rattle' inside the drivers door.

He took it back to the dealer, and they tightened up all the screws/bolts, and the noise remained.

He took it back to the dealer again...this time they took the door panel off and actually found a soda bottle inside.

Here's where it gets good: Inside the bottle was a note that said "Looks like you found your rattle".

True story!

Shavings inside an engine tells me that this guy wasn't too happy with this being his last day at work. Maybe a layoff?

With shavings this large and being aluminum...sabotage gets my vote.
 
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:14 PM
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My advice: Throw 'em away and "fugheddaboudit". Probably machine chips from the factory. Never saw uniformity like that from a failing component.
 
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:25 PM
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Default I just found the samething in my 2009 jaguar xf

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Pics as promised, scale reference was my CF card from my dslr.



Originally Posted by H20boy
Found these, all jammed up in myoil pump pickup along the edge of the screen. Did not get attracted by a magnet, so its aluminum shavings/cuttings.

I'm at a loss, and can't handle mysteries, so need the forum to solve this for me, or at least, theorize.





I haven't had any engine work done on the car, and the only 'service' i've had performed by others is my oil cooler line replaced by an indy shop, but don't see how cuttings got into the oil. I purchased the car from the jaguar dealer, and I'm the second owner. Coincidentally, it was from Brutal's dealership in Houston.
i found the samething in my pan, but i was checking due to a knocking noise. Noise began very light everyone said it was normal. I suspect the timing chain tensioner but they are the newer ones that are not all plastic. Anyone got any idea as to why and what caused this?
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xf-xfr-x250-44/engine-knock-no-oil-191776/#post1791976
 
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Old 11-12-2017, 08:43 PM
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I have to admit. Those pieces don't look random enough to make me think the engine is in the process of disintegrating. They are too perfect; too consistent. I hate to indite Coventry, but I think those are left over from the manufacturing process. I wouldn't worry a bit going forward.
 
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Question One never knows??

H20boy,

Probably some Aggie did it!

Billy Clyde in Houston
 
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Old 11-13-2017, 02:00 AM
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They are machine shavings...... Possibly from the original machining days when the engine was produced, put a magnet them, if they are ali then I would say definitely, if steel they would make another conundrum
 
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Today metalworkers use this to "prevent chip build-up":


https://www.kometgroup.com/en/press/...chip-spoilers/
 

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My guess is that the rough side of this cutting and It is definately from a machining process pre engine build, has a surface texture that has allowed the old oil over a period of time to deposit some of the crap it carries under pressure and released it while it in the sump.

I teach Engineering in a college after 30yrs in Industry those are definately bits of swarf!!
 
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It is remarkable to me that Jaguar's factory engine builders would miss debris this significant as they go through the various inspection phases during the build process. Or perhaps this is typical of an engine built on any given Monday....
 
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