Brake dust - XE
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Brake dust - XE
I recently received the XE Sport that I ordered back in February (More of a daily driver than my F type R) and noticed that the wheels do not seem to collect anywhere near the amount of dust that the F type does .. Break-in driving does account for some difference, but not this much.
So, I noticed in the 'Jaguar XE' printed advert. booklet (pg. 27) that the pads are supposed be a new material that reduces brakes dust so the wheels don't get as dirty.. at this point it does seem to really reduce the dust.
My question would be for any 2017 F-Type owners; do you have the same pads in your F type, if so, I may switch the pads on my F-type now.
Lawrence
So, I noticed in the 'Jaguar XE' printed advert. booklet (pg. 27) that the pads are supposed be a new material that reduces brakes dust so the wheels don't get as dirty.. at this point it does seem to really reduce the dust.
My question would be for any 2017 F-Type owners; do you have the same pads in your F type, if so, I may switch the pads on my F-type now.
Lawrence
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Thanks for the report.
It's pretty std. for "sports cars" to OEM equip w/ more "track-worthy" pads, which generally means higher-dusting. They bite better, are less resistant to fade, and offer shorter stopping distances. Given the intended market, it sounds like JLR made a smart choice going to lower-dusting, street-oriented pads on the XE.
It's pretty std. for "sports cars" to OEM equip w/ more "track-worthy" pads, which generally means higher-dusting. They bite better, are less resistant to fade, and offer shorter stopping distances. Given the intended market, it sounds like JLR made a smart choice going to lower-dusting, street-oriented pads on the XE.
Last edited by Foosh; 07-24-2016 at 12:29 PM.
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Even if the XE pad was a direct swap over to the F Type, you wouldn't want to use it. The XE is a sports sedan at best, and when the engineers made pads for it they focused on compromising between noise, dust and stopping distance. Maximum stopping distance and fade resistance isn't as much of a priority because its not an extremely sporty car. The F Type on the other hand is a sports car above all else, and doesn't make the same compromises as the XE. If you put the XE pads on the F Type you'd likely see a huge drop off in performance because of the changes they needed to make to reduce the dust.
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I used to have BMW that had brake dust issues and my repeated attempts to find different pads always resulted in degraded stopping power and/or excessive noise.
I think brake dust is lesser of evils, especially if you USE your brakes occasionally.
What you shouldn't do is get hard to clean rims like mine.
I think brake dust is lesser of evils, especially if you USE your brakes occasionally.
What you shouldn't do is get hard to clean rims like mine.
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+1 That's one area where you have to give BMW a lot of credit.
For many years, thousands and thousands of customers have complained about the amount of brake dust on all of their models, but BMW has remained steadfast in their position on proper brake pads, while reminding customers the shortest possible stopping distance may well save your life.
For many years, thousands and thousands of customers have complained about the amount of brake dust on all of their models, but BMW has remained steadfast in their position on proper brake pads, while reminding customers the shortest possible stopping distance may well save your life.
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Given what I said about BMW above, it is interesting to see that their main competitor, MB, has recently pursued a different path. My wife has a '15 MB C300 equipped w/ the AMG sports package. She has nearly 30K miles on the car now, and the brake pads are close to zero dusting.
I have never once had to use any wheel cleaner on her car. It's a simple car shampoo wipe down and spray off.
I have never once had to use any wheel cleaner on her car. It's a simple car shampoo wipe down and spray off.
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OK guys, will just have to wait for better technology.. if it ever comes along.
I'll get around to posting on the XE site with a few details, however the XE does handle very well indeed .. a friend who races Porches took it out and we didn't thrash it too hard as its breaking in, regardless, he thought it handled the best of any mid-small sedan he has driven, which are mainly BMW.
Lawrence
I'll get around to posting on the XE site with a few details, however the XE does handle very well indeed .. a friend who races Porches took it out and we didn't thrash it too hard as its breaking in, regardless, he thought it handled the best of any mid-small sedan he has driven, which are mainly BMW.
Lawrence
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Even if the XE pad was a direct swap over to the F Type, you wouldn't want to use it. The XE is a sports sedan at best, and when the engineers made pads for it they focused on compromising between noise, dust and stopping distance. Maximum stopping distance and fade resistance isn't as much of a priority because its not an extremely sporty car. The F Type on the other hand is a sports car above all else, and doesn't make the same compromises as the XE. If you put the XE pads on the F Type you'd likely see a huge drop off in performance because of the changes they needed to make to reduce the dust.
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