Maintaining cost
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Maintaining cost
Struggling to understand why there’s so many more P-cars around than Ftypes...
ive test driven both now, really enjoy the jag more, especially so that the wife is more comfortable too lol, feels way more GT than the 718 we drove.
looking at getting a used 2016-2018, non-R convertible.
colleagues tell me maintenance cost to own is gonna get me on the jag, but then again, wouldn’t it be same for said P-car? I can’t imagine it being any much different, plus-minus 50bucks-100bucks depending on what part.
I currently... don’t intent to track. Maybe that’ll add to the variance? Not sure.
hoping to hear from experience owners from both camps to help me make my decision thank you so much in advance!
ive test driven both now, really enjoy the jag more, especially so that the wife is more comfortable too lol, feels way more GT than the 718 we drove.
looking at getting a used 2016-2018, non-R convertible.
colleagues tell me maintenance cost to own is gonna get me on the jag, but then again, wouldn’t it be same for said P-car? I can’t imagine it being any much different, plus-minus 50bucks-100bucks depending on what part.
I currently... don’t intent to track. Maybe that’ll add to the variance? Not sure.
hoping to hear from experience owners from both camps to help me make my decision thank you so much in advance!
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Struggling to understand why there’s so many more P-cars around than Ftypes...
ive test driven both now, really enjoy the jag more, especially so that the wife is more comfortable too lol, feels way more GT than the 718 we drove.
looking at getting a used 2016-2018, non-R convertible.
colleagues tell me maintenance cost to own is gonna get me on the jag, but then again, wouldn’t it be same for said P-car? I can’t imagine it being any much different, plus-minus 50bucks-100bucks depending on what part.
I currently... don’t intent to track. Maybe that’ll add to the variance? Not sure.
hoping to hear from experience owners from both camps to help me make my decision thank you so much in advance!
ive test driven both now, really enjoy the jag more, especially so that the wife is more comfortable too lol, feels way more GT than the 718 we drove.
looking at getting a used 2016-2018, non-R convertible.
colleagues tell me maintenance cost to own is gonna get me on the jag, but then again, wouldn’t it be same for said P-car? I can’t imagine it being any much different, plus-minus 50bucks-100bucks depending on what part.
I currently... don’t intent to track. Maybe that’ll add to the variance? Not sure.
hoping to hear from experience owners from both camps to help me make my decision thank you so much in advance!
But you need to shop around for the best servicing parts and labour deals and in many cases a good independent shop will be cheaper than a dealership.
Or else you can do what I have done once the warranty expired - save a bundle on both parts and labour by doing it all myself, by my estimate approaching $2,000.
My F-Type is the most reliable, cheapest to run, cheapest to maintain and cheapest to service car I have owned in the last 20 years!
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Maybe the OP considers them to be Harry Potter cars, as in "the car that shall not be named"?
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Maintenance costs will be higher than a typical daily driver's because of the difficulty of accessing the individual 'bits'. You will pay for the extra labor time.
This is typical of cars with tightly-packed engine bays.
Bespoke parts might be more expensive as well. (Parts made ONLY for the model car you are buying...whether it is a Porsche, Lotus, or Jaguar)
The advice to find a competent independent is spot-on. Inquire of a local Jaguar club.
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I've seen posts mentioning routine oil changes varying from $175 USD to $350 USD. Quite a bit more than a $39.95 special at Jiffy-Lube, right? Of course, a specialist (or dealer) might be worth extra money if they are experienced enough to anticipate problems and will inspect any potential problem areas.
This is typical of cars with tightly-packed engine bays.
Bespoke parts might be more expensive as well. (Parts made ONLY for the model car you are buying...whether it is a Porsche, Lotus, or Jaguar)
The advice to find a competent independent is spot-on. Inquire of a local Jaguar club.
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I've seen posts mentioning routine oil changes varying from $175 USD to $350 USD. Quite a bit more than a $39.95 special at Jiffy-Lube, right? Of course, a specialist (or dealer) might be worth extra money if they are experienced enough to anticipate problems and will inspect any potential problem areas.
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My boxster was much cheaper to maintain......I mean for starters, German build quality exceeds the panel gap tendancies of the Brits. Also, with far more Porsche’s on the road, parts are easier to come by and generally cheaper (more aftermarkets parts and such). Biggest thing though I’ve found....there are tons of independant shops that specialize in German cars, whereas not so much when it comes to Jaguar. I’m not far from a couple fairly large cities, but not a single independant shop can provide the one-stop shop I’d like for my Jag. Many things have to go to directly to the dealer.
First thing to do is find out if there is an independant shop that specializes in Jags.
First thing to do is find out if there is an independant shop that specializes in Jags.
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Porsche drivers will rarely (if ever) drive anything other than Porsches regardless of what may be better out there in the market. Porsche, has done what Ferrari has done which is the ability to create loyalty within their brand. Very few manufacturers have been able to achieve that and that is the main reason you see so many Porsches and it's also rare that you meet a Porsche owner who as only owned one Porsche (unless they are a new owner).
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Agreed
Porsche has been re-engineering the flat six for 50 years (bear in mind a 718 is a new motor for Porsche. Personally, I'd stay away from the twin turbo 4). It is a modern marvel. You can buy practically anything you need to maintain "P-Car" motors on pelicanparts.com for a reasonable price. Think of the quantity of units sold. The market for parts is vast when compared to the F-Type. This can also been seen with the availability of accessories for the brand.
...All of that being said - I just sold my Porsche for an F-Type. It's just more ... special and grin inducing.
...All of that being said - I just sold my Porsche for an F-Type. It's just more ... special and grin inducing.
My boxster was much cheaper to maintain......I mean for starters, German build quality exceeds the panel gap tendancies of the Brits. Also, with far more Porsche’s on the road, parts are easier to come by and generally cheaper (more aftermarkets parts and such). Biggest thing though I’ve found....there are tons of independant shops that specialize in German cars, whereas not so much when it comes to Jaguar. I’m not far from a couple fairly large cities, but not a single independant shop can provide the one-stop shop I’d like for my Jag. Many things have to go to directly to the dealer.
First thing to do is find out if there is an independant shop that specializes in Jags.
First thing to do is find out if there is an independant shop that specializes in Jags.
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Porsche drivers will rarely (if ever) drive anything other than Porsches regardless of what may be better out there in the market. Porsche, has done what Ferrari has done which is the ability to create loyalty within their brand. Very few manufacturers have been able to achieve that and that is the main reason you see so many Porsches and it's also rare that you meet a Porsche owner who as only owned one Porsche (unless they are a new owner).
I remember reading in the late 90's in a car magazine speculation about the upcoming new (x350) well before it was released. Jaguar had actually surveyed a certain pool of owners, probably x308 drivers, about which way they'd prefer the model to go. The general consensus was that they wanted an evolutionary styling change, versus revolutionary. One common complaint noted was that the car was very low and hard to enter and exit, hence the new model was taller.
So then what happened when the X350 was due for replacement? Did that research suddenly not mean anything?
If Porsche suddenly made the 911 into a front engine angular styled car you'd bet they'd suffer for it.
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Yep! Since they moved their GTLM race car to a mid-engine design, they teased having a mid-engine 911 and that was not received well. They have publicly stated that the 911 will only and always be rear engine (even though they keep inching it forward with every iteration ).
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