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Old Dec 12, 2024 | 06:11 PM
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Looks like Meal Team 6 is ready to go, LOL.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2024 | 06:26 PM
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If true, this video says it all.


 
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Old Dec 13, 2024 | 07:33 AM
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The video might be overstated here and there - but it sounds credible.
And it seems consistent with what we hear from the company itself.

A very sad story, and likely to become a popular Case Study at Business Schools.
 

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Old Dec 13, 2024 | 06:12 PM
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It doesn't sound good for JLR
 
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Old Dec 13, 2024 | 08:57 PM
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Do any of you happen to work in corporate in ANY large company? Any of them? I do and have for near 15 years now and this whole DEI, diversity hiring, agenda pushing BS is happening EVERYWHERE. The only reason you don't really see it too much from every company is because they are not advertising to you. Our customers are in the automotive and building materials industry and I am not even exaggerating when I say that this type of stuff is how it is with us as well. And it works because at the upper echelon of our customers' companies, the same worldview persists. Not only that, a large portion of the shareholders are perceived to be of this mindset as well. The reason? All of these corporate shills and butt kissers are college educated morons and they are now majority millennials. There is literally nothing unique about this except in that you don't always see it. Just this week, I had to take 2 stupid continuing education classes on DEI and diversity. I deal with it because it doesn't directly affect me and I get paid very very well enough to not give any craps to be honest. I only lead the IT division. Most of us are like this, especially us Gen X and Boomers. We have made it this far. The new guard will be taking over. There is literally no escaping it. So why even worry about it? Your outrage and panic will change nothing. The tide that does change moves slowly and effectively on its own. This ad will not turn your children or grandchildren trans or whatever it is you hate so much about it. Indifference is a hell of an approach, to be sure.

 

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Old Dec 14, 2024 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by farm-jag
Do any of you happen to work in corporate in ANY large company? Any of them? I do and ...
There is literally no escaping it. So why even worry about it?
There​ are two kinds of people: people who want to stay uninvolved and those that get involved.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by farm-jag
Do any of you happen to work in corporate in ANY large company? Any of them? I do and have for near 15 years now and this whole DEI, diversity hiring, agenda pushing BS is happening EVERYWHERE. The only reason you don't really see it too much from every company is because they are not advertising to you. Our customers are in the automotive and building materials industry and I am not even exaggerating when I say that this type of stuff is how it is with us as well. And it works because at the upper echelon of our customers' companies, the same worldview persists. Not only that, a large portion of the shareholders are perceived to be of this mindset as well. The reason? All of these corporate shills and butt kissers are college educated morons and they are now majority millennials. There is literally nothing unique about this except in that you don't always see it. Just this week, I had to take 2 stupid continuing education classes on DEI and diversity. I deal with it because it doesn't directly affect me and I get paid very very well enough to not give any craps to be honest. I only lead the IT division. Most of us are like this, especially us Gen X and Boomers. We have made it this far. The new guard will be taking over. There is literally no escaping it. So why even worry about it? Your outrage and panic will change nothing. The tide that does change moves slowly and effectively on its own. This ad will not turn your children or grandchildren trans or whatever it is you hate so much about it. Indifference is a hell of an approach, to be sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvRjC5ZgZgo
IT? Is that still a thing in 2024?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Turko
If true, this video says it all.

https://youtu.be/rO6qhrEYNMw
Guy who makes money looking to be outraged for stuff on the internet, gets outraged about stuff on the internet. Makes money off outrage. Nice gig I guess.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AbnMike
Guy who makes money looking to be outraged for stuff on the internet, gets outraged about stuff on the internet. Makes money off outrage. Nice gig I guess.
...says the guy hating on yet another guy on the internet.

Round and round we go...
 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 03:02 PM
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There's no hate, stud. But someone whose source of income is farming outrage to old white people who are offended by television commercials isn't going to necessarily be a biased source of anything.

I feel attacked for being straight and white! Let me go listen to people online (that I don't know and probably don't even feel this way in person but know they can make bank talking about it and then act like they're telling the truth about everything) because it sounds like stuff I want to hear.

These guys are no different than preachers tapping their feet in stalls or banging prostitutes or politicians who enact laws like restricted gun carry but then surround themselves by armed personnel, or even carry guns themselves (ahem, Harris) - they're hypocrites selling snake oil to the desperate.

 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vitoc
IT? Is that still a thing in 2024?
Well, specifically infrastructure and networking. AI and robots are a long long way off from coming close to taking these jobs. Matter of fact, the IT Infrastructure team makes up about 20% of the entire global workforce at my company of around 80k employees. Manufacturing takes a lot of digital communications and information technologies. Who knew, yeah? Sure a lot more folks are more competent with personal IT, so to speak, but enterprise, global, large scale manufacturing is a whole is different realm of expertise. Honestly, there is way more IT in 2024 than there was when I started 22 years ago. I lead just one division and have roughly 300 folks in IT here.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2024 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by AbnMike

These guys are no different than preachers tapping their feet in stalls or banging prostitutes or politicians who enact laws like restricted gun carry but then surround themselves by armed personnel, or even carry guns themselves (ahem, Harris) - they're hypocrites selling snake oil to the desperate.
And Bingo was his Name-O. This is a fantastic analogy. Inuch the same way, too, the followers can't really see the fallacy in what values they hold because they feel the preacher is supposed to be just and right and so long as you chase things that seem correct, then you must be correct in your assertions and values. All the while, these folks are getting duped. And this is no hate on faith. I am a man of faith, but not of denomination or human leadership. In as much as there is the religion (cult?) of woke, there is very much a religion (cult) of anti-woke. That being said, this ad still doesn't scream political messaging to me. I mean who remembers glam hair bands of the 70s and 80s? Heck I just watched the Stones' "Sympathy for the Devil" Love video and, according to today's standards, 'ol Mick would have been apparently pushing trans ideology simply because of the way he looked. Art, by its very nature, is weird/different/unique whatever. As far it's artists, At the very most, that is all I saw here.

The thing that baffles me, even IF Jaguar is going this whole route with the new vehicles...that's literally the least of their problems with their plans.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AbnMike
There's no hate, stud. But someone whose source of income is farming outrage to old white people who are offended by television commercials isn't going to necessarily be a biased source of anything.

I feel attacked for being straight and white! Let me go listen to people online (that I don't know and probably don't even feel this way in person but know they can make bank talking about it and then act like they're telling the truth about everything) because it sounds like stuff I want to hear.

These guys are no different than preachers tapping their feet in stalls or banging prostitutes or politicians who enact laws like restricted gun carry but then surround themselves by armed personnel, or even carry guns themselves (ahem, Harris) - they're hypocrites selling snake oil to the desperate.

 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by farm-jag
Well, specifically infrastructure and networking. AI and robots are a long long way off from coming close to taking these jobs. Matter of fact, the IT Infrastructure team makes up about 20% of the entire global workforce at my company of around 80k employees. Manufacturing takes a lot of digital communications and information technologies. Who knew, yeah? Sure a lot more folks are more competent with personal IT, so to speak, but enterprise, global, large scale manufacturing is a whole is different realm of expertise. Honestly, there is way more IT in 2024 than there was when I started 22 years ago. I lead just one division and have roughly 300 folks in IT here.
The last IT person I dealt with was 2008 or so just before I started working remotely for a few years. When I do on-site gigs, I deal with DBAs and DevOps and the occasional NOCs in datacenters, but still no IT. After cv most peeps in tech are still working remote. That means they manage their own workstations, devices, software, and connections. I'm sure there are some peeps who can't figure out how to VPN or Skype into the office, but why any company would want or need an army of people who can be replaced by basic AI or call-center people for pennies on the dollar is kind of funny.

The new guard is taking over -- no escaping it, remember? What you celebrated as indifference probably should have been replaced by keeping up with technology. You'll find out soon enough. The good news is there are plenty of resources available to learn new skills. Plan ahead.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 04:35 PM
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I remember one day (long time ago) a sale reps at Jaguar told me that the best client for Jaguar were the one’s that bought a MGB, TR6 or a Spitfire as their first car. My first car was a MGB 1974 brand new. Later with more money in my pocket I bought an XFS (2017 brand new) and a my XK8 2006 VE that I love.

I always look when a Bentley, RR or Aston Martin pass my because I love the British cars and the the mentality behind them, maturity and history.

Now I am ashamed with this new trends, new logo, new style and in the mean times NO CAR and NO FUTURE.

When I look at the new publicity it brings me back the Paris Olympic opening with the NUE scene with Drags Queens and the back lash they had. The video was banned and they even apologized for it.

when you ask a Marketing or a Publicity firm’s to give you a new style they will do. But you are still in command and say YES or NO. I think the ones who said YES should be FIRED.

 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 04:55 PM
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I guess you'd rather see Bumbling Biden speak and then see him confused as to how to get off stage and then fall on his face on stage and also on airlines steps multiple times. You jprobably really enjoy Chackling Kamala repeat and repeat and etc the story of her 'middle class' upbring. And yes, I love the little dance Trump does.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by farm-jag
Well, Even see that dumb#$$ Trump singing Alfi's or whatever the heck that is. .
​​​​​​I guess you'd rather see Bumbling Biden speak and then see him confused as to how to get off stage and then fall on his face on stage and also on airlines steps multiple time. You jprobably really enjoy Chackling Kamala repeat and repeat and etc the story of her 'middle class' upbring. And yes, I love the little dance Trump does.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 10:06 PM
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So is the type 00 going to be a real car? Or is it just AI generated? Have we seen anything about what might actually be a new model? The ridiculous advertising aside, it would be nice to see a VERY DIFFERENT CAR on the road, for a change. Everything's looking the same, if you can get past all the NPC crossover pods.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 15FTypeR
So is the type 00 going to be a real car? Or is it just AI generated? Have we seen anything about what might actually be a new model? The ridiculous advertising aside, it would be nice to see a VERY DIFFERENT CAR on the road, for a change. Everything's looking the same, if you can get past all the NPC crossover pods.
The two concept cars are real physical things not just AI images, but I reckon they are just mock-ups and non-drivers, see here for example:


IMHO the Type 00 will never appear as a real car for sale to the general public, well at least nothing bearing much if any resemblance to those concept cars.
The "real" cars are not slated to appear until early 2026 at the earliest and I'm betting we won't see anything for sale until much later than that.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 11:16 PM
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I am totally confused now: Is the 2025 D-Type a real thing or the Jag-brand-self-destruction-Type-00???
 
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