I have a 00 s-type with two new keys as previous owner has lost his keys with the fob. Question, I called a locksmith and he can supply a new fob but wants me to call Jaguar to fine out which fob it takes, stand alone or flip key. I get confusing results on fobs on Ebay. and why not just any jaguar fob of this vintage. ??

 

I had 2 non working fobs on my 06 and was looking on eBay also...there is a certain frequency that the car will receive..I went to the topix website and was able to pull my build sheet by the vin number and the info was there..all for free..then got the right ones...my car uses 315 mgz..yours could be this or the 433 mgz I believe is the other one...check it out...if I remember right you select print for the build sheet to show...someone correct me if wrong please
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Thanks for the input, which Mhz does the 2000 S-type use, the 315 or the 433 mhz. Does the fob program the same as the xk8 and (one more) will the Ford fob work on this model..? I understand they will on some jags.

 

To VIN (M45254)
4 button
315mhz
XR81166

Fords of the same vintage will usually work

I use WDS/IDS and I don't think there is a MANUAL way to configure the keyfob transmitters.

 

Thank you Motorcar man
Wish I knew what WDS/IDS was.

 

Worldwide Diagnostic System = WDS http://www.autonews.com/article/1999...iagnostic-tool
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldw...gnostic_System

Integrated Diagnostic System = IDS https://www.fordtechservice.dealerco...ites/ids/usen/

bob

 

I have a 2000 S type. I just opened the fob and there is the number 315 printed on the circuit board. This may or may not refer to the mhz but I suspect it does. Hope this helps.

 

Oh, WDS/IDS, I should have known...Many Thanks, I have fobs ordered. Will advise how this works out.

 

Just to clarify one or two things for you.

​​​​​​New keys are usually of the Ford tibbe type and there is a transponder in the plastic key head which is programmed to the car. Without the programmed transponder the car will not start.

​​​​​I would advise caution on buying fobs online for two reasons. If you buy any non genuine jaguar fob, Jaguar will not programme it to the car because it is a non jaguar part. It may not be possible to program a copy fob to the car and that is a gamble you take.

Having talked to several mobile locksmiths who specialise in remote fobs in replacing them in a lost keys situation, they will supply genuine parts only. They will sometimes try to programme a new fob of yours but they cannot gaurantee they will be able to programme it correctly. Even if they are successful they will not gaurantee their work. You still have to pay them if your fob can't be programmed to your car.
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On buying a new jaguar fob the dealer has to cut the flip key and programne the fob which houses the flip key. So dig deep.

Pattern jaguar fobs and keys online.
There is some ropey junk to be bought on ebay from cheap to expensive with lookalike jaguar fobs and integral flip keys. It's a minefield.
This is one example of how ropey they are.

I bought two fobs with blank integral keys. The original keys have a number stamped on the side to let you or a locksmith know what the cut pattern is for their key cutting machine. That means having the right type of key cutting machine in the first place. On the original key, the fob acts as the bump stop for the key in the lock. Same as your plastic key head on the new keys acts as the bump stop. This is to make sure the key is not too far in or out of the lock or it will not turn. As I found out. I took my new fobs with blank flip keys to a master locksmith to cut the blanks with the intention of using a mobile programmer for the fobs.
However it took the locksmith a fair time to cut and recut my blanks. But my blanks which were cut in his machine using the correct codes off my one original key would not unlock the door. So in the process of elimination he cut one of his own Ford tibbe keys with the black plastic heads. That worked first cut! We found out what the problem was with my fobs with flip keys by chance. While he pulled on my fob to get the cut key out of the lock the key stayed in the lock. It was not secured in the fob! There was no pin in either of my keys to hold them in the fobs. They we just a tight tolerance fit and nothing more. Not even glued in. The top of my key blanks were also disimilar to the Jaguar key blanks which meant they could not be fitted to a genuine Jaguar fob either.
So I got a refund off the ebay seller although it was difficult to convince him of the physical problem. The keys would never have worked because they had no constant bump stop. The bump stop would vary on each key entry or withdrawal especially over time.
We couldn't fix or glue the new blanks in place on the fobs because we couldn't assess how far the cut blanks needed to be in our out of the fob.

End result was I got a refund and then by great luck I found my lost key and fob weeks later.


Good luck with finding fobs that can be programmed to the car. Please let us know how it goes?
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The key head does not act as a bump stop, if it did the plastic would wear very quickly. If your key rests on the key head as a bump stop then there is an issue with your lock cylinder.
In normal operation the end of the tibbe key acts as the bump stop. There will be a gap between the lock cylinder and key head.
All the cuts (6 or 8) should line up with the 2 shoulders on either side of the key.
I've personally cut a number of keys for Ford and Jaguar members here is AUS, both tibbe and HUF style and very rarely had issues with cheap keys. I'm not a locksmith, just a hobbyist with a milling machine.

You can use either style of key with your S-Type. I upgraded dad's X200 S-Type from the standalone key to the later flip style key. The difference is the remote frequency - 315 for North America, 433MHz for the rest of the world.

You can also read about my S-Type key adventures here:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...emotes-140726/

 

Thanks dopey, you are absolutely right about the fact the key fob or head isn't a bump stop. Although it was on the ebay keys and fobs I bought. Because the key blade was too far into the fob.
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Ok, I 'm not after a key, I have two new one which work fine. Just want a simple fob to open doors.

 

The fobs I got on eBay are perfect. All the buttons have a distinct click and they were sent at 315 mhz . I took the fob part with the buttons and put it on my key half. Looks nice...just waiting for my interface cable to program...the 2006 model year will not accept the stalk flash method .got 2 complete uncut flip keys for 42 bucks delivered. If you want to make real sure for compatibly compare the FCC IDs for the old and new by separating the 2 halves. If you do not have a current fob which I believe is your case just go by the 315 mhz. Hope this helps..I just realized you have a 2000 model year. I have seen the separate fob on eBay as well