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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 10:36 PM
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I have a 2000 Jaguar S Type 3.0, 103K; Over the past 2 months, the key would occasionally get stuck in the ignition cylinder, once for 3 days. My mechanic suggested that I spray a little WD-40 in it. I sprayed it with the key in the cylinder and it worked for several days. This morning it got stuck again. After 30 minutes of playing with it, I was able to get the key out, I stuck the WD-40 tube in the cylinder and sprayed it and the tube wouldn't come out. I had to use vice-grip to pull it out. It appears that a 'shaving' from the outside of the tube remained in the cylinder (although I'm not sure because the tube appeared to be compressed. After poking around inside the cylinder with a large safety pin for 2 hours, I was unable to find any plastic shavings. But the key will not go all the way into the cylinder and I'm unable to start the car. I tried lightly tapping the key with a hammer to force it in, to no avail.
Can the cylinder be repaired? How do I remove the cylinder without being able to turn the key? Can I change the cylinder without changing the PCM?
I just spent 3K on motor, suspension, and bodywork so I want to keep the car.
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 11:11 PM
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I have a 2000 Jaguar S Type 3.0, 103K; Over the past 2 months, the key would occasionally get stuck in the ignition cylinder, once for 3 days. My mechanic suggested that I spray a little WD-40 in it. I sprayed it with the key in the cylinder and it worked for several days. This morning it got stuck again. After 30 minutes of playing with it, I was able to get the key out, I stuck the WD-40 tube in the cylinder and sprayed it and the tube wouldn't come out. I had to use vice-grip to pull it out. It appears that a 'shaving' from the outside of the tube remained in the cylinder (although I'm not sure because the tube appeared to be compressed. After poking around inside the cylinder with a large safety pin for 2 hours, I was unable to find any plastic shavings. But the key will not go all the way into the cylinder and I'm unable to start the car. I tried lightly tapping the key with a hammer to force it in, to no avail.
Can the cylinder be repaired? How do I remove the cylinder without being able to turn the key? Can I change the cylinder without changing the ECM?
I just spent 3K on motor, suspension, and bodywork so I want to keep the car.
Any advice would be appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 02:20 AM
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Perhaps a blast of compressed air will shift any debris in the lock?

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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 02:32 AM
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My need taking apart.

WD40 is NOT suitable as it attracts dust. Use graphite as a locksmith should.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 09:59 AM
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Thanks, I just tried the compressed air but it didn't help. I believe I need to replace the cylinder. I can buy a 'cylinder with key' from a 2000 S Type, from a salvage yard in my area. If I install that, will it work?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 10:24 AM
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Thanks, I found that out after I did it. I believe I need to replace the cylinder. I can buy a 'cylinder with key' from a 2000 S Type, from a salvage yard in my area. If I install that, will it work, or do I need to do some type of reprogramming?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 10:27 AM
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destroy the chip in the donor key and have them on the same keychain

or you can scavenge the chip off your old one and move it to a new 4d60 blank and get it cut, drilling may be required. @Sone might be able to help you out


 

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Great Idea! Thanks
 
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 12:27 PM
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hi
the ignition lock comes out
you can remove it by removing the dash end panel, just sqeeze the two plastic tabs and its removed from hehind the dash, unplug and it out
the barrel can be removed from the switch as well
if you wedge the flap open and tap it on a bench it may come out, have you also tried a vacuum cleaner to suck it out
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 04:00 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I already ordered a used ignition switch w/key. I'm going to try Xalty's suggestion and take the chip out of used key and replace it with mine.
 
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Today I swapped the $95 salvage yard ignition cylinder, key, and barrel. I also transferred the chip from my valet key. It took me a little over an hour. The car started right up. The only downside is that I now need to use two keys. Thanks to all, especially Xalty, for their assistance.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by blackjag777
Today I swapped the $95 salvage yard ignition cylinder, key, and barrel...

The only downside is that I now need to use two keys.
Now that you've got the car running again, can you disassemble the failed parts? Maybe you can figure out why the old cylinder was acting up and fix it. Sounds like some debris was jammed in there. With any luck, you can fish it out from the comfort of your workbench and get the operation back to normal. If so, you could reinstall the original part and go back to one key.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2021 | 08:11 PM
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Yes, I will look into that.
 
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Now that you've got the car running again, can you disassemble the failed parts? Maybe you can figure out why the old cylinder was acting up and fix it. Sounds like some debris was jammed in there. With any luck, you can fish it out from the comfort of your workbench and get the operation back to normal. If so, you could reinstall the original part and go back to one key.
From Robert rawle south Wales UK Britain concerning your key you changed the key barbell from a scrap yard now you got two keys you can have the new barbell stripped and reconfigure the barbell to your old key so you can have one key to operate every thing try taking the barbell to a ford garage or a jaguar specialist they can do it because the jaguar key is a ford key years ago I had problems so had to get a new barrelled they asked me do you want your old key for the new barrell I said yes he done it there and then I worked for ford motor company Bridgend engine plant and Swansea axle plant for 28yrs
 
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