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Old Nov 6, 2021 | 11:56 PM
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I've locked my keys for my 3 cars, Jag, Maserati and audi s8! In my STRs boot, well at least I think that's what I've done cos I've lost them and that's the last time I had the with me when I ran the car for a while and then I have a habit of disconnecting the batteries of my cars when I'm not using them so they dont keep draining!

Basically I would press the button on the remote to lock all the doors with the boot (trunk) open then disconnect the negative terminal off the battery and close the boot and the only thing I can think is I might of left the keys in there as they are nowhere my house!

A guy can come out to pick the lock for around £120 however I'm not sure they are in there otherwise I would gladly pay that but imagine handing over £120 and he comes and opens the boot and they ain't In there then 2 seconds later I will have no option but to slam it closed again lol.

Does anyone have any idea of a way to open it for example if I get power through the starter motor would that give power to the boot release button so I could open a gap on the door and use a rider something to press it to open? I allready wasted a whole day opening a gap in the door and hooking the door handle and button from the inside and it wont open the door as I would imagine it's dead locked?

Any ideas would be Greatly appreciated, I also opened a gap on the side of the boot using one of those pump up gadgets and we put a small usb camera in the boot but cos theres a lot of things in there couldnt see the keys!!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2021 | 12:08 AM
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6 cut tibbe pick. everybody and their grandma has the tool it's great for breaking into transits and stuff like that. zero effort required

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Old Nov 7, 2021 | 08:50 AM
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Make SURE you get a second set of keys!!! So many people have one key and your just waiting for a disaster like this.
Seems like all the car dealers sell cars with only one key too!
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Old Nov 7, 2021 | 09:37 AM
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There is a terminal behind the right front wheel well liner to which an external power source can be connected to energize the car's electrical system and allow the trunk release button to function.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2021 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by S-Type Owner
There is a terminal behind the right front wheel well liner to which an external power source can be connected to energize the car's electrical system and allow the trunk release button to function.

Details in post #3:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ng-port-87362/


 
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Old Nov 8, 2021 | 07:13 PM
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You guys are Brillaint, Thanks soo much, soo helpful, not one but three different ideas all of which would work im sure, ive ordered the lock pick device but also contacted a jag dealer to see if they can send me my key code cos i found a guy on ebay who cuts a key for £9.75 with either the key code or a pic of the actual key!

Ill try the lock pick thing which also reads the code and if i can get that to work then ill be good if not then ill try the other options you guys have mentioned and will defo get a spare cut!

Im just begging that the keys are in the boot or im back to square one!!

Thanks again guys Much appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by xalty
6 cut tibbe pick. everybody and their grandma has the tool it's great for breaking into transits and stuff like that. zero effort required

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Loboo-Idea-...T%2CB0751G5NJN
I got one of these picks off the net, Thanks for the info and I've watched various videos on how to use it but whatever I do the door or boot wont open! If the car is dead locked would this still work? Also is it possible that for the jag I needed an 8 cut pick rather than 6 cos mine is 6? Thanks
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 11:04 AM
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your car is 6 cut
 
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Ok I finally managed to use the tibbe lock pick on the drivers door and got in!! However for whatever reason the boot lock wont budge, I've tried everything with the same lock pic its obviously a different type of lock even though I know my key used to open it so very strange!

I've given up trying to open the boot with the lockpick it's just not happening so i tried putting power through the cigarette lighter to pop the boot but this won't do anything, I've used this method on other cars like my Audi before and its allways worked but maybe the fuse for the lighter is blown and from what I've seen in the manual its located in the boot?

I'm running out of options now because I know there meant to be a jump start point under the wheel arch of the car but I think the wheel needs to be taken off and oh yeah the locking wheel nut for the alloy is in the
boot!!

The other option was to get a main dealer to give me the key code and get a key cut however because I have traders insurance my logbook is not on my name so they wont do it and said it has to be the same name and address that's on my drivers license so yet another issue there because it takes around 4 weeks to get the new logbook through!

Is there any other way I can get power to pop the boot open, I noticed that all the doors seem to be dead locked as they wont open from the inside so I only have the drivers open.
also to mention again that one of the battery terminals is disconnected off the car when I closed the boot so if that's the case would putting power through one of these ways still work?

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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Harry24k
i tried putting power through the cigarette lighter to pop the boot but this won't do anything
The cigarette lighter is only powered with the ignition on. When the key is off, power is removed. This option won't work for your situation.

Originally Posted by Harry24k
I'm running out of options now because I know there meant to be a jump start point under the wheel arch of the car but I think the wheel needs to be taken off...
I've never messed with this terminal in the wheelwell, but don't believe the wheel has to be removed. If access is too tight, raise the front of the car onto jackstands and let the wheels hang down. This may give you enough room.


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Is there any other way I can get power to pop the boot open, I noticed that all the doors seem to be dead locked as they wont open from the inside so I only have the drivers open.
If you can't access the terminal in the wheelwell, all is not lost. Look here, figure 02.1. Not sure what year you have, but I picked 2003:

http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Elec...al%20Guide.pdf

Look at the alternator or starter motor, whichever is easier to access. On the starter, you will see two large red cables connected to one terminal. On the alternator, you will see a large red cable by itself, usually under a rubber cover. Connect battery power to either of these locations and you should have power available to the rest of the car, as if the battery was still connected.

If the trunk release button still doesn't work, check the valet switch in the glove box. If inadvertently depressed (very common), the trunk release button is inhibited.

If still no joy, there may be some points in the front power distribution panel (under the hood) where you could apply power.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 03:59 PM
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Almost forgot: After reapplying power, you may inadvertently set off the alarm by opening a door or the trunk. Not something to attempt late at night in a residential neighborhood…

Your car may also have a secondary alarm fitted, with its own internal power source. Removing primary power may not silence it. Don’t have time to find it right now, but I think details are in the how-to section.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 04:49 PM
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you now have the key code. now get someone to cut an entry key






there’s something in the trunk and glovebox lock that stops a valet key from working. probably the same issue with the pick

 

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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 05:11 PM
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Once you've solved your key situation(s), use a battery maintainer instead of disconnecting the battery leads. Each time the battery leads are disconnected, the emission monitors need to be reset prior to MoT.

Not disconnecting the battery also allows for quicker use of each vehicle while avoiding the possibility of creating another electrical fault.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2021 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by xalty
you now have the key code. now get someone to cut an entry key






there’s something in the trunk and glovebox lock that stops a valet key from working. probably the same issue with the pick
You are absolutely right on...I ground the tip of a valet to fit the trunk because i sometimes use it instead of the flip key when i fish in case it gets wet....i never use it as a valet because i never go any where high class enough to have valet service that is the only choice
 
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Old Nov 13, 2021 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kr98664
Your car may also have a secondary alarm fitted, with its own internal power source. Removing primary power may not silence it.
Details here:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...02-how-189612/

Same basic thing on an XK8:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ounder-149781/


Not sure exactly what triggers this secondary alarm. I think it's only active if the main battery has been disconnected, which kills the primary alarm system, but don't quote me on that. Most likely the original internal batteries have failed a long time ago, so you may be fine as is.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2021 | 03:16 PM
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I had a look under the bonnet and opened the drivers side fuse box which I've added pics of and was going to add some power to one of the empty slot posts but then had second thoughts incase its not a positive terminal and I blow something up!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 12:30 PM
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Default Boot opened, keys found, Hallelujah!!

Finally this evening managed to get to the alternator as advised by you guys and put a small 4amp car battery charger to it and that was enough to pop the boot, no alarm went off so happy days!!

Thanks again guys for all the ideas and advice, I can finally get to drive the str again!!!

 
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