S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 ) 1999 - 2008 2001 - 2009
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Rattling sound during idle around flywheel area

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 16, 2013 | 05:39 PM
  #1  
ddyke2000's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 9
Likes: 1
From: Jacksonville, nc
Default Rattling sound during idle around flywheel area

I have a 2000 s type 4.0 I just recently purchased. I noticed that during idle it sounds like the flywheel is rubbing something. When I rev it to higher rpms the sound goes away. I also noticed that through the opening the fly wheel looks a little rusted due to it sitting before I bought it. I have put about 1500 miles on it and the sound hasn't gotten better or worse. Could it be the torque converter if its just idling or is there something else? Also is it a sealed transmission because I can't check the tranny fluid to see if it has enough. I don't want to have to move the tranny off if I don't have too. Please help oink me in the right direction.
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2013 | 05:48 PM
  #2  
tbird6's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,899
Likes: 803
From: Home
Default

Just be very careful here!!!

If you don't know Jaguars you have a car that needs the timing chain tensioners replaced. If not they will fail and destroy the engine. I have never heard of the problem you describe.

So do you know if they have been changed? The sound you describe could be the ratting of the timing chains because they are loose. When you rev the motor the noise does not go away but you can't hear it over all the other noises.

After you figure this out then yes. I would do a transmission full service. Drop pan, change filter and fluid. Don't let anyone charge you a lot for this as the car has a Ford 5 speed automatic which has been installed in millions of Fords. Dead common unit.
.
.
.
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:30 PM
  #3  
police666's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,154
Likes: 222
From: Liverpool, U.K.
Default

i had a loose heatsheild on a car once, it produced a noise disappearing as the revs increased
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:04 PM
  #4  
pitifulpluto's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 377
Likes: 59
From: Orlando, Florida
Default

I could be wrong, but I think you have a mercedez benz transmission as in the supercharger xk models. Be careful what fluid you use and call jaguar they will let you know what fluid you should be using.
I'd have to agree with the timing chain being the culprit of this noise.
Does the noise continue when the engine is warm and idling?
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:20 PM
  #5  
clubairth1's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 12,090
Likes: 3,366
From: home
Default

No. Ford 5 speed. The same one in the Lincoln LS, Mustang and Explorer and others. Dead common as I said.

It uses Mercon. Again any store will have the correct fluid. Just look up your application.
.
.
.
 
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2013 | 08:16 PM
  #6  
bfsgross's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,084
Likes: 432
From: NY
Default

ddyke, as others suggest: As a precautionary, service the trans. with new filter and fluid. Check catalytic converters for loose heatshield or decaying innards, causing them to rattle during idle. Check timing chain tensioners. They may have already been swapped with the updated metal tensioners.
 

Last edited by bfsgross; Jan 17, 2013 at 11:45 AM.
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2013 | 09:34 AM
  #7  
ddyke2000's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 9
Likes: 1
From: Jacksonville, nc
Default

Is the transmission a sealed tranny. I cand find the dipstick, I looked in the owners manual and showed everything but the tranny dip stick. If it is a sealed tyranny how do I change filter and refill the fluid?
 
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2013 | 10:19 AM
  #8  
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 27,522
Likes: 4,911
From: Yorkshire, England
Default

The How Tos here are very detailed how to check/fill etc. But really DO WORRY about the chain tensioners as they are prone to failure especially with age. Also in the stickies.
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 09:06 AM
  #9  
srchapman's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 8
Likes: 2
From: Picayune, MS
Default End Result?

Originally Posted by ddyke2000
I have a 2000 s type 4.0 I just recently purchased. I noticed that during idle it sounds like the flywheel is rubbing something. When I rev it to higher rpms the sound goes away. I also noticed that through the opening the fly wheel looks a little rusted due to it sitting before I bought it. I have put about 1500 miles on it and the sound hasn't gotten better or worse. Could it be the torque converter if its just idling or is there something else? Also is it a sealed transmission because I can't check the tranny fluid to see if it has enough. I don't want to have to move the tranny off if I don't have too. Please help oink me in the right direction.
I was wondering what your rattle by the torque converter ended up being. I don't see whether you ever diagnosed it. Could you please tell me because I have the same problem and I am 90% sure it must be the torque converter. I was hoping that it might not be. Thank you for your post.
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 09:24 AM
  #10  
tbird6's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,899
Likes: 803
From: Home
Default

He is long gone as is the car!!

The Ford 5 speed does not have much if any TC problems. You will read about them on this forum but that is for the later S Types that have the ZF 6 Speed. That transmission has a known problem with the lock up friction material failing and it usually sets a code.

You have the 6 cylinder so you are good with the timing tensioner stuff.

Maybe a dust shield rubbing?
.
.
.
 
Reply
Old Sep 30, 2014 | 12:27 PM
  #11  
abonano's Avatar
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,759
Likes: 1,435
From: Hazlet Township, NJ
Default

Make sure the bolts to the TQ to flex plate and crank are nice and tight...

Missing tooth or the starter gear touching the flex plate could e the culptret of the noise...

I had this issue on my 95 Trans Am... the only difference is the noise is not symmetrical and does not dissappear when the rev's are increased.
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2014 | 12:43 AM
  #12  
omartinez29's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: Cape Coral ,fl
Default vibration inside and ticking outside

hi i have a 2005 jaguar s type the car runs great but it has a vibration when idling and a ticking sound under the hood what can i do here could itg be something simple ? help me guys
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2014 | 12:44 AM
  #13  
omartinez29's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
From: Cape Coral ,fl
Default

its a v8
 
Reply
Old Nov 1, 2014 | 02:28 AM
  #14  
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 27,522
Likes: 4,911
From: Yorkshire, England
Default

At a guess a faulty purge or PCV valve but look at fuel trims for more data.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
GordoCatCar
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
4
Jan 2, 2017 01:10 PM
martybmw
F-Type ( X152 )
15
Apr 2, 2016 04:55 AM
Jeh
XJ40 ( XJ81 )
2
Oct 13, 2015 09:23 PM
Thang Nguyen
X-Type ( X400 )
4
Oct 12, 2015 01:25 AM
raulan
XF and XFR ( X250 )
3
Sep 10, 2015 12:43 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:31 PM.