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Old Jun 19, 2021 | 04:06 AM
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I'm setting mine up like I have in my x-type ,ill be able to hit mode button and switch to factory, that's only if have the interest in doing so because for me and me only I have no use for them I'm enjoying what I have, no disrespect on anyone having issues ,if do anything ill use sdl and scl i2c communication if I
get some days of work ill tackle it I'm on 16 hours a day at work I'm burning 🔥out
When I install the Tesla style unit in my XJL, I can probably get my center console USB access, by just running it to the head units USB ports. I can probably do the same with the Ipod USB interface, but will probably be limited to controlling it from the Ipod. The biggest issue, would be the valet function. When I think about it though, it is kind of like a bathtub. When I was looking at a house I wanted to rent in the Philippines, I noticed all 3 bedrooms have bathrooms, but with showers instead of bathtubs. I thought it was a major drawback, but it was the only drawback, so I rented it, and have been doing so for the last 6 years. It is a great house for $500 a month. When I started working in the UAE, the villa I am renting has bathtubs. In over two years living in my villa, I have never actually taking a bath. Only showers. My valet function is like that. I have used the valet function only once, in the two years I have owned the car. It is more the idea of not having the option to use it, more than actually needing/using it.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2021 | 05:31 AM
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Nice, the oem setup was useless to me, I love the tesla screen it runs flawless, easy access to all functions
 

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Old Jun 19, 2021 | 06:56 AM
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Nice, the oem setup was useless to me, I love the tesla screen it runs flawless, easy access to all functions
It does depend on exactly what features someone uses from the OEM. I have an old school Ipod Classic, that I probably listen to about 10% of the time, so not a major loss for me, but it could be for others. Same with the valet function, I hardly ever use it. However, the biggest issue with the valet function, is on the 2012 XJLs, it is the only way to lock the glove box. That could be an issue for those that lock it on a semi-regular basis.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2021 | 12:10 PM
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that's why there's people like me who can figure out things like that ,and help others .we no buying stuff aftermarket is a chance we take hoping everything will be perfect but we all no from experience its never the case.,buying cheap stuff from Alibaba and aliexpress is a gamble customer service sucks...for me im happy but i can see some items are necessary for some people, if i get the time ill take a look at a alternate route to lock your glove box , for now I'm installing a tesla screen in my x-type, oh joy
 
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Old Jun 19, 2021 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sgtm7
It does depend on exactly what features someone uses from the OEM. I have an old school Ipod Classic, that I probably listen to about 10% of the time, so not a major loss for me, but it could be for others. Same with the valet function, I hardly ever use it. However, the biggest issue with the valet function, is on the 2012 XJLs, it is the only way to lock the glove box. That could be an issue for those that lock it on a semi-regular basis.
Well heated steering wheel is something I use all the time and it's something you have to give up, unless you want to use it in a stupid way... You need to enter the setting menu to activate it and it heats permanently until disabled, this is ridiculous...both Tesla and 7" have this bug.

You will also have to give up the warning messages, which are very important, can save you from flat battery and many other things, ability to clear the massages, adjust the cluster clock, check what triggered the alarm, among other things, some guys don't mind those things, but for me it definitely a NO.

I'm working on a setup that will leave the OEM system intact, the android unit will not interfere with any of the OEM functions, it will be used for audio only.
 

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Old Jun 19, 2021 | 07:28 PM
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Thanks Sean
I had found that setting but unfortunately on that panel only thing working is the language soft button.
China is working on the problem and are suggesting a software upgrade this unit has been a pain in the but from day one I should have sent it back really I may still do that.
Also when it's a bright sunny day it's very difficult to see the screen
It's what I have been saying from the very start, there are issues, not reported here, do your self a favor and send it back, i highly doubt there will be any updates, i have been waiting for them the whole year.
I decided to go for a different install. These cars have a lot of electronics, if not done the right way, it will only mean problems.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 05:27 AM
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Well heated steering wheel is something I use all the time and it's something you have to give up, unless you want to use it in a stupid way... You need to enter the setting menu to activate it and it heats permanently until disabled, this is ridiculous...both Tesla and 7" have this bug.

You will also have to give up the warning messages, which are very important, can save you from flat battery and many other things, ability to clear the massages, adjust the cluster clock, check what triggered the alarm, among other things, some guys don't mind those things, but for me it definitely a NO.

I'm working on a setup that will leave the OEM system intact, the android unit will not interfere with any of the OEM functions, it will be used for audio only.
As you can tell from my location, heating steering is not something I would be likely to ever use, and I don't believe it is on my car. However, if I had to access the valet mode in the same matter, I would be happy with that, simply because I don't use it that often.

What is the 7" model you are talking about? It must be different from the 10" I have for my XJL. The 10" I currently have installed, you remove the two circuit cards from the OEM head unit, and install them into the Android head unit. So you actually maintain all the functions through the OEM screen. I guess they did something different for the aftermarket units for the XFs.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 06:49 AM
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For my 2015 there's no issues to report, I new what I was getting when I purchased it ,I did the research and I'm happy with what I have
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sgtm7
As you can tell from my location, heating steering is not something I would be likely to ever use, and I don't believe it is on my car. However, if I had to access the valet mode in the same matter, I would be happy with that, simply because I don't use it that often.

What is the 7" model you are talking about? It must be different from the 10" I have for my XJL. The 10" I currently have installed, you remove the two circuit cards from the OEM head unit, and install them into the Android head unit. So you actually maintain all the functions through the OEM screen. I guess they did something different for the aftermarket units for the XFs.
Certainly different units the ones beeing discussed here are different, there are no PCB to exchange they come with a canbus decoder box, and you loose the ability to go back to the OEM system, you loose everything i mentioned and more, they are riddled with bugs and yet Dennis makes a blind eye about it, really don't understand why... One thing is that they don't bother him which doesn't mean they are not there. If he is happy with it that's fine I'm glad for him, but all this is misleading, there's another member that fell this now he wants to send it back, why would he want to send it back if there was no bugs to report...






 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 08:58 AM
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If I can find a bug I would let you no from day 1 .I just can't find anything wrong with it ,i post videos what do you want blood
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dennis black
If I can find a bug I would let you no from day 1 .I just can't find anything wrong with it ,i post videos what do you want blood
Hey Dennis. Carlos has called out several issues. I think there's a difference between matching OEM functionality 1:1 and bugs and he's called out both.
I'll point out 2 bugs and ask you to correct them. - It doesn't bother you or you're not seeing them, but to others, they are bugs.

Relocate the heated steering wheel to the climate control screen. Trade it with something else if it won't fit or add an additional row. Everyone who has the XF and needs the heated steering calls this a bug. In your videos you say you don't need it but show everyone how to drill down to the correct screen to find it. It doesn't shut itself off and having to turn your attention to multiple screens while driving to find it and turn it off (I assume a person would turn it on @ start up) is just dangerous. I think that makes it a bug, although not a defect. You said you could fix it. Please do.

Find the code that converts Celsius to Fahrenheit and please and share it. I've noticed in your videos, the climate controls that are showing during your taping you display in F - mine only displays in C and doesn't change when the button is selected. You have to agree that's a bug and you also offered to resolve it previously.

I think that's where the frustration that you're reading from others is ultimately is coming from.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 09:36 AM
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Don't bother buddy, he has magical powers all the bugs disappear with his magical presence, and now he offers blood... Sad this went that way i'm unsuscribing from this thread.
Only a person wanting to sell units would insist hiding bugs, can't think of anything else.

I believe I was never disrespectful, but offering blood... Well... says a lot about him.

As for 1:1 functionality, it's just these units i have a BMW X3 with AliExpress android unit, that thing works perfectly , you can go back into the OEM system, you loose nothing it works absolutely wonderfully. That's what you would expect from a 1000 us unit.
 

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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sgtm7
As you can tell from my location, heating steering is not something I would be likely to ever use, and I don't believe it is on my car. However, if I had to access the valet mode in the same matter, I would be happy with that, simply because I don't use it that often.

What is the 7" model you are talking about? It must be different from the 10" I have for my XJL. The 10" I currently have installed, you remove the two circuit cards from the OEM head unit, and install them into the Android head unit. So you actually maintain all the functions through the OEM screen. I guess they did something different for the aftermarket units for the XFs.
Sent you a PM and would love to get the instructions, pics or whatever you have that addresses adding the two OEM circuit cards to your XJ unit. Did you create a thread and post the info?

Disregard sgtm7, got your PM thanks, and also found the install. Yep that's the way these units should be built. I'll look at my Tesla unit to see if there's any built in ribbon connectivity capability. I could then theoretically replicate the same with one of my old OEM head units. I'm also looking forward to Carlos' work adding both screens. I think that won't work on the XK but still interested in seeing it.
 

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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 10:00 AM
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Well it's you on the attack I can only defend myself and shut this thread down ,originally I just wanted to help if I found issues, so it seems helping doesn't help so I'm done good luck guys ,I tried
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 10:10 AM
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Attack... that's what you call pointing out bugs and beeing honest about everything, so people don't fall for this. I have never been disrespectful, you are the one offering blood that's an actual attack. I was never attacking you, just debating and trying to understand why you hide the bugs. I don't think I'm delusional i have heard your own words on your videos on these issues, and here you say no bugs to report, really can't wrap my head around that.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 10:20 AM
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First off all I'm a regular guy who works 12 hours a day at a printing company, I don't sell radios , my father worked at British Leyland as a technician, he gave me a technical gift oh teaching me electronics ,also gave me the gift of being honest and help others if you can, by your attacks makes the world go in the wrong direction ,I put this thread up because I wanted to try this out ,big mistake, I'll help people in other ways, if there hungry I'll feed them,if they need start I'll give them a jump ,posting on a forum huge mistake
 

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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 10:46 AM
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If you ever feel i have attacked you in any way, please accept my apologies, i but have never offered blood to anybody...
My dad died on my 11th birthday same day, from cancer. I had to learn everything by myself, nobody thought me anything, i had **** of a childhood , but today I'm a successful entrepreneur.

Our personal lives don't make this any different, i appreciate all you have shown, the nice install and everything else, but it would have been helpful, to focus on things that are wrong, (at least i think that's what these forums are for), so the Chinese scum don't fill their pocket selling things that aren't fully functional.
They are lazy, they lie a lot, they know perfectly well everything that's wrong with the unit.

And all these issues could be easily fixed with an update. But they prefer to keep selling them like this. Why's isn't this topic helping, because they keep selling. If the problems get all over the internet, their sales will drop and they will be forced to fix it. I'm not worried, within some time more and more people will start to report the problems, and it will be inevitably known.

So again Dennis buddy don't take this wrong i never intended to attack you, or disrespect you in anyway, sad you see it that way, learn to accept criticism is part of doing things better.



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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlos Saez
If you ever feel i have attacked you in any way, please accept my apologies, i but have never offered blood to anybody...
My dad died on my 11th birthday same day, from cancer. I had to learn everything by myself, nobody thought me anything, i had **** of a childhood , but today I'm a successful entrepreneur.

Our personal lives don't make this any different, i appreciate all you have shown, the nice install and everything else, but it would have been helpful, to focus on things that are wrong, (at least i think that's what these forums are for), so the Chinese scum don't fill their pocket selling things that aren't fully functional.
They are lazy, they lie a lot, they know perfectly well everything that's wrong with the unit.

And all these issues could be easily fixed with an update. But they prefer to keep selling them like this. Why's isn't this topic helping, because they keep selling. If the problems get all over the internet, their sales will drop and they will be forced to fix it. I'm not worried, within some time more and more people will start to report the problems, and it will be inevitably known.

So again Dennis buddy don't take this wrong i never intended to attack you, or disrespect you in anyway, sad you see it that way, learn to accept criticism is part of doing things better.



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In all fairness, your posts did appear a little bit "aggressive". I don't believe that the heating steering wheel being in a menu is "wrong". It just isn't the way someone who uses it all the time would want it to be. Just like on my current unit in my XJL, not being able to see my volume or temperature adjustment when in the Android screen isn't "wrong", it is just annoying.

I agree that you are correct about the vendors and manufacturers not giving us the updates/fixes we want. However, I disagree that people would stop buying them if they knew ahead of time. I say that, because the vendors and manufacturers have a captive audience. Even with the shortcomings, no other manufacturers are making head units for our cars. Not Pioneer, Kenwood, Alpine, Sony, JVC. NOBODY. Hell, the major manufacturers don't even make decent head units that run off the Android OS, much less car specific ones for our cars. Only the Chinese. So our choice is to either pick the unit with the least shortcomings(or the one with the shortcomings we are willing to accept), or to stick with the OEM unit. All of the Jaguar head units have shortcomings, just different ones. That is why, even if people know of the shortcomings of the different units, they will still buy them if they want an improvement over their OEM head unit. JMHO
 
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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 12:21 PM
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Maybe i didn't express myself correctly, it might have sounded a bit aggressive, my native language is Spanish not English, but offering blood... i can't see myself being more aggressive than that.

About the heated steering, it's not that it's in the wrong menu it's in the menu where you activate and deactivate functions such as folding mirros , etc., i have this unit and this is not correct, actually when activated it should appear in the AC menu, as a workable button that's the case with the Jaguar XK. And not permanently on as the XF, is it's definitely a bug, among many other things, I'm not going to go over them again they are well documented in another thread.
As for other vendors doing perfect units, it does exist i see no reason for the Jaguar units to not work equally.

I have a BMW X3, it has a AliExpress android unit every single thing is working perfectly it has cero bugs, no reason Jaguar units can't do the same, they will hopefully over time fix everything, these units haven't been around for too long the BMW X3 units have been on the market for longer time .

Again i apologise if I offended anybody, wasn't the intention, maybe i was a bit frustrated, but this has been going on for a while. And i know the bugs are there, because I have one of these units.
 

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Old Jun 20, 2021 | 02:24 PM
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No worries no love lost, my x-type I can hit the nav button hold for 2 seconds and it goes to android,I can figure out something for 7 inch units for you guys ,I have a module from my
first unit I can look at
 

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