Oil service
I have a 2016 XJ euro6 3.0D. Had the vehicle serviced at my main jag dealer in May 2019 have done 4K since then and my oil service indicator has illuminated, took it back to the dealer three weeks ago and they reset the service indicator, on leaving the dealer it registered 12000 miles. I have just started the vehicle and the “oil service” message has come on again so I went into the service menu and it shows remaining miles to service as zero.
Question is has anybody experienced this issue with a 2016 or newer 3.0D XJ?
I have heard of oil contamination issues with newer XJ’s anybody know anything about this?
desperate to find out further information, would appreciate your help.
Question is has anybody experienced this issue with a 2016 or newer 3.0D XJ?
I have heard of oil contamination issues with newer XJ’s anybody know anything about this?
desperate to find out further information, would appreciate your help.
I have a 2016 XJ euro6 3.0D. Had the vehicle serviced at my main jag dealer in May 2019 have done 4K since then and my oil service indicator has illuminated, took it back to the dealer three weeks ago and they reset the service indicator, on leaving the dealer it registered 12000 miles. I have just started the vehicle and the “oil service” message has come on again so I went into the service menu and it shows remaining miles to service as zero.
Question is has anybody experienced this issue with a 2016 or newer 3.0D XJ?
I have heard of oil contamination issues with newer XJ’s anybody know anything about this?
desperate to find out further information, would appreciate your help.
Question is has anybody experienced this issue with a 2016 or newer 3.0D XJ?
I have heard of oil contamination issues with newer XJ’s anybody know anything about this?
desperate to find out further information, would appreciate your help.
It is to do with the service countdown or adblue count down , I have read of it others will tell better but it aint good put it that way , JLR are trying to wiggle out of this issue blaming "uncompatable journeys"
https://www.jaginfo.org/archive/index.php/t-108854.html this guys car was also blighted with this and left to sell his car
So if I understand your logic correctly, it is this :
The DPF problem means you need to change the oil more often, therefore if your oil service light comes on early, you have a DPF problem.
I for one think this logic has some issues. So far no-one has explained to me how, and if, a DPF problem can turn on the oil service light. Perhaps high oil level could do it?
I think the most likely problem is that the dealer didn't reset it right.
The DPF problem means you need to change the oil more often, therefore if your oil service light comes on early, you have a DPF problem.
I for one think this logic has some issues. So far no-one has explained to me how, and if, a DPF problem can turn on the oil service light. Perhaps high oil level could do it?
I think the most likely problem is that the dealer didn't reset it right.
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So if I understand your logic correctly, it is this :
The DPF problem means you need to change the oil more often, therefore if your oil service light comes on early, you have a DPF problem.
I for one think this logic has some issues. So far no-one has explained to me how, and if, a DPF problem can turn on the oil service light.
I think the most likely problem is that the dealer didn't reset it right.
The DPF problem means you need to change the oil more often, therefore if your oil service light comes on early, you have a DPF problem.
I for one think this logic has some issues. So far no-one has explained to me how, and if, a DPF problem can turn on the oil service light.
I think the most likely problem is that the dealer didn't reset it right.
So if I understand your logic correctly, it is this :
The DPF problem means you need to change the oil more often, therefore if your oil service light comes on early, you have a DPF problem.
I for one think this logic has some issues. So far no-one has explained to me how, and if, a DPF problem can turn on the oil service light. Perhaps high oil level could do it?
I think the most likely problem is that the dealer didn't reset it right.
The DPF problem means you need to change the oil more often, therefore if your oil service light comes on early, you have a DPF problem.
I for one think this logic has some issues. So far no-one has explained to me how, and if, a DPF problem can turn on the oil service light. Perhaps high oil level could do it?
I think the most likely problem is that the dealer didn't reset it right.
For example, this post:
wilf
13th July 2019, 07:40
Actually Mattia is right, there has always been some oil dilution due to blowby, but nowhere near the levels being seen now, on such small mileages.
BTW Mattia - there is no sensor, the ECU calculates a dilution figure by extrapolating from the number of (incomplete) dpf regens. Then adjusts the mileage to service accordingly.
The Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) regeneration process (regen) burns off most of the soot (particulates) in the DPF, turning it into ash and C02. This soot builds up fairly quickly as it should, that is the point of the DPF, so it needs to be burnt off regularly otherwise the DPF becomes clogged. Eventually the DPF will fill up with ash anyway by around 80,000 miles, then it either needs to be replaced (big $) or professionally cleaned (slightly less $).
The burning off of the soot is done by getting the DPF extremely hot, around 500 degrees C, and this is achieved by injecting excess fuel on the exhaust stroke which then ignites inside the DPF, burning the soot.
Some of this excess fuel leaks past the piston rings into the crankcase and into the oil.
If the regen process is working properly and completely the oil dilution with fuel is not too bad, but if the regen process doesn't work properly or complete fully the ECU tells the car to keep on trying to regen so excess fuel gets in the oil. The main cause of failed or incomplete regens is not getting the DPF hot enough, as happens if the car only ever does short trips. Sometimes it gets so bad with so much fuel in the oil the fuel in the oil ignites and the engine runs on after being shut down and destroys itself very quickly.
I don't know exactly why this problem is worse with Euro 6 and Adblue, I can only guess that it's harder than ever to get a full regen to complete.
I had a diesel XF a few years ago, a 2010 XFS, and I had a few problems right from the get go with a clogged DPF.
Long story short I solved the problems by using some additives in the fuel, but I will never go back to a diesel.
I didn't read your linked stormcatcher page until now, my post was 100% off the top of my head and from memory.
I didn't do a bad job if I say so myself!
We have to allow for our Murican friends not being familiar with diesel Jags and their associated problems (as diesel Jags have never be sold in North America) so some explanation is required.
But now many car makers are putting particulate filters on petrol engined cars, completely pointless IMHO but has to be done to satisfy the ever more idiotically low "pollution" dictats put out by various bureaucrats, so buyers of new petrol engined cars can look forward to the same sorts of hassles and problems.
I didn't do a bad job if I say so myself!
We have to allow for our Murican friends not being familiar with diesel Jags and their associated problems (as diesel Jags have never be sold in North America) so some explanation is required.
But now many car makers are putting particulate filters on petrol engined cars, completely pointless IMHO but has to be done to satisfy the ever more idiotically low "pollution" dictats put out by various bureaucrats, so buyers of new petrol engined cars can look forward to the same sorts of hassles and problems.
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