Hi guys! I've got a problem with my XJ6 manual, the clutch is not returning back.
After some investigation I found out that the clutch pedal return spring seems to be broken.
Only one online I can find costs 37 quid. Has anyone experienced this? Or can anyone spare some advice?
I thought I'd consult it here first before spending 50 quid on a spring and shipping.

It's possible to get the car into gear but it's all very slow and overall feeling weird.
As if you had to reach deeper for the clutch to grab. The grab itself also feels very weak.
Could there be more to this issue than just the spring?


Part number should be MNA5403AA.

 

There are only a hand full of manual; XJR owners in this forum so given time, they may to read your thread and respond. I suspect that apart from the spring itself, your clutch master and/or slave cylinders may be playing up.as well. I have written a few times about the clutch master and slave cylinders here; here is one of them
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-180379/page2/.

 

How many kilometres/miles on the vehicle?

Did the clutch engage normally prior to the pedal return spring breaking?

 

144k km on the clock. The clutch was acting pretty normal before, although the grab was short and there was some slippage going into 1st gear during hi-heat days in the summer.

 

Based on your photos, it appear hydraulic fluid is leaking from the master cylinder. What is the fluid level in the reservoir? Has the fluid ever been changed?

 

I think the substance on the spring is just grease that was put there for some reason. There doesn't seem to be any leak on the linkage. I believe the fluid was changed and topped up during the last service. The whole trans was out as the clutch bearing needed to be changed. I'll check with my mechanic.

 

Here's a link to some more pictures: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...Oq?usp=sharing

The position of the spring on the last picture (7) seems to be wrong but the other way around there didn't seem to be enough tension to push against the pedal, as if the spring wasn't there. The position on the picture however seems to provide too much pressure against the pedal. I have no idea.

Is there anybody with a manual car that could verify the position of the spring for me please? I am baffled.

 

Hello,

I have the same issue. I have the return spring and the pin but am struggling to assemble it properly. I've found an assembled pedal box on eBay. It had some photos helping to understand how it's supposed to be.

Anyway, there is this 'spring locator' pin which should hold the other side of the spring (see pictures attached). Looks like the spring must have some tension in a neutral position. Therefore, I struggled to put the spring to the right position without taking the whole pedal box off the car.

Looks like the locator is controlled from the outside. So I suppose the original idea is to put the spring in place and then screw the locator pin from outside the pedal box. This must give the spring enough tension in a neutral position.

My best result so far: if you press the clutch pedal fully you can put the end of the spring behind the locator pin. Seems like the spring can sit there safely and it has some tension to put the pedal back to its neutral position. I'll try to drive around like this and see what's what

Hope this helps
Cheers,
Anton

 

A little more experience on this issue.
Since the pedal seemed not to have much resistance with the configuration in the second photo, I decided to try it this way. It was great until the pedal was pushed all the way down at which point the spring disengaged from the adjuster and swung upwards.


Thus, I went back to this way. Unfortunately I lost the E clip so had to VOR a pack from GB today. They're cheap enough it's not worth looking for it and being metric, the assortments at local parts stores aren't quite right. I have not engaged the spring in the adjuster yet since the clevis pin could back out.



I would be interested in any feedback. I installed a new master cylinder and am waiting on the slave. Once I get the E clips I can put the car back up in the air and see what kind of shape the slave is in.

 

I had the same problem with the clutch not returning. The spring was located correctly in the adjuster. The problem it turned out was old brake fluid (I believe the clutch uses DOT4). You need to use oil from a new sealed container and have to thoroughly flush the system. After that, no more problems. I hope that helps.

 

Here's the spring located in the adjuster I believe the correct way. It really only can go one of two ways. Still could not get a pedal with almost 20lb pressure on the bleeder tool. Removed slave cylinder. It looks pretty nasty so I reckon that's what's needed to hopefully fix the car?

 

Pleased to report that clutch issue now solved. Installed new Valeo slave (from Latvia) along with XJ40 master and car shifts nicely. They were both rather nasty looking inside. Will keep cores in case anyone supplies correct rebuild parts in future.