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Old May 12, 2012 | 09:15 PM
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Just picked up a 1996 XJ6 with 92K miles yesterday, BRG with biscuit interior, for $3400. Clearcoat is shot on the roof, and lots of crowfeet on the hood, but a very solid car otherwise.

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Put new tires on it, 225/60-16, and was wondering about swapping the wheels with some other make. From what I can tell, my stock Jag wheels are 16x7, 5x120 bolt pattern? BMW e38 wheels have the same bolt pattern (5x120), but not sure if the offset and backspacing is compatible.

Does anyone know if the e38 mesh-style wheels will work?

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Old May 13, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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Folks over at the Saab forum (I have a '91 900 turbo convertible) chimed in with some opinions. Seems that there actually is a difference between the 5x120 (BMW) and 5x120.65 (Jag) wheels. Apparently, 5x120.65 is the same as 5x4.75", which is a typical Chevy bolt pattern. Only variables now are the offset and backspacing...
 
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Old May 13, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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....and center hole diameter. Jag hubs require a larger-than-typical center hole.


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Old May 14, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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....and center hole diameter. Jag hubs require a larger-than-typical center hole. Cheers
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Good point, forgot about that one. Some Chevy trucks have the same bolt pattern as my '89 Montero, but the center hole is too small. Found that a lot of Toyota Tacoma and 4Runner wheels will bolt right up.

As for the Jag, I took the spare out (which is full-size, and looks like the rest of the wheels), and it's stamped with 16x7, 33mm (offset I'm assuming), and that's about it. So the bolt pattern is 5x120.65 (4.75"), and I measured the center hole as 73mm, backspacing as 5 7/8"?

Can anyone confirm the center hole opening and backspacing on these wheels?
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 07:29 PM
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Hi Robert,

The rest of us are probably wondering what's not to like about the dimple-mags?
(not my cup-o-tea for I have aero's...still...would be a clear 2nd choice)

Good luck in your quest...wheels can be tough to find info on.....
 
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Old May 14, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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If all 4 wheels looked alike, I wouldn't have an issue with them. But for some strange reason, one wheel looks new, but the other three have definitely been around the block a few times. Strange...

The wheels are kinda plain in my book, with a lot of aluminum there. Would like to get something where you can see what's behind 'em, and most XJ6 wheels that I've seen are more or less full face as well. I also have a '91 Saab turbo convertible, and swapped the stock 15-hole alloy wheels (which were a PITA to keep clean) with some later model "twisted" 3-spokes. I'm trying to stay away from multi-hole / multi-vaned wheels, which just traps brake dust and dirt, and take a while to clean.

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If the Jag bolt pattern is the same as some Chevy models, wheels like the 5-spoke IROCs would look decent, easy to clean, and show the rotors and calipers.

This is my first Jag, and this one's a keeper, so we'll see if this is just a wheel phase I'm going thru, lol!
 
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Old May 20, 2012 | 11:40 PM
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So we have Cheby bolt patterns?????
 
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Old May 20, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badcat
So we have Cheby bolt patterns?????
Yup! 5 on 4.75

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Old May 21, 2012 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aholbro1
The rest of us are probably wondering what's not to like about the dimple-mags?
Heh, I think the only wheel I'd swap for the Dimple mags on my X300 is this one (from XJR8?):

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Dimple is such a good design.
 
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Old May 21, 2012 | 08:17 AM
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The only Jaguar XJ/XK V8 wheels I know of that will fit the X300 are the X308 VDP with hub caps. The others will need to be modified in some way because of the front hubs.

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Old May 21, 2012 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Oubadah
These look like updates of the classic minilite wheel.

 
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Old May 21, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by motorcarman
The only Jaguar XJ/XK V8 wheels I know of that will fit the X300 are the X308 VDP with hub caps. The others will need to be modified in some way because of the front hubs.

bob gauff


FTR I have XJ8 wheels on my X300/XJR. Not sure what style they are....the plain-vanilla, standard issue 16x7 XJ8 wheel from 1998-2001 or whatever.

They fit fine *except* that they foul the wheel bearing dust caps on the front.

I had to ...ahem....cough cough ...."re-contour" the dust caps a bit :-)

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Old May 21, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug
FTR I have XJ8 wheels on my X300/XJR. Not sure what style they are....the plain-vanilla, standard issue 16x7 XJ8 wheel from 1998-2001 or whatever.

They fit fine *except* that they foul the wheel bearing dust caps on the front.

I had to ...ahem....cough cough ...."re-contour" the dust caps a bit :-)

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Pics of your car???
 
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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by socal1200r
Just picked up a 1996 XJ6 with 92K miles yesterday, BRG with biscuit interior, for $3400. Clearcoat is shot on the roof, and lots of crowfeet on the hood, but a very solid car otherwise.






Put new tires on it, 225/60-16, and was wondering about swapping the wheels with some other make. From what I can tell, my stock Jag wheels are 16x7, 5x120 bolt pattern? BMW e38 wheels have the same bolt pattern (5x120), but not sure if the offset and backspacing is compatible.

Does anyone know if the e38 mesh-style wheels will work?

Thanks
Did you buy yours from a privit party or dealer?Looks like a clean car! I paid 2000 more and isnt as clean as yours on the inside (unless pics lie) and mine is the sc version......
 
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Old May 21, 2012 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badcat
Pics of your car???

In essence it looks just like this:

1998 Jaguar XJ8 L Start Up, Engine, and In Depth Tour - YouTube

Of course there are a few differences in X300 versus X308 lights and bumper trim...but they're very minor

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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badcat
Did you buy yours from a privit party or dealer?Looks like a clean car! I paid 2000 more and isnt as clean as yours on the inside (unless pics lie) and mine is the sc version......
Looked on Craig's List...found three being sold thru private parties, plus a couple from dealerships...two of the private party ones were the same color, the burgundy with tan interior...the two at dealerships were that light blue over tan...the one I ended up getting was the least expensive, and the only "local" one in BRG, and had the second lowest miles (a burgundy one I test drove had 87K, but the seller was firm at $4300).

I was thinking of getting a set of IROC wheels like these, 16x8, zero offset, center bore opening 73mm (s/b same as the Jag's):
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I think the center area of each of those spokes would look good painted green, to match the car. Subtle, but would tie in the color of the car with the wheels. Main issue is the zero offset 8" width would push the wheels out, maybe to the point where they'd bottom out on the fender lip, instead of clearing it like they do now.

Here's a different set:
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Someone on the Saab forum gave me this website as a reference for tire and wheel fitment:
Online Wheel & Tyre Fitment calculator. Offset, Tyre stretch and Rolling Radius calculator (hopefully this opens)

Lots of things to take into consideration on getting different wheels, and the main ones seem to be offset/backspacing, and more importantly, center bore diameter. Those dimple mags are just too plain for my liking, and they're so solid, can't see anything behind the wheels, like the brake calipers and rotors.

Since I plan on driving my '91 Saab 900 turbo convertible cross-country in Aug, I might just hold off on doing anything wheel-related, until the trip is done. But, if there's a smoking deal on a nice set of wheels, like those 5-spoke ones above w/o the tires, I might just have to take the plunge now and get the tires swapped later...
 
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Old May 21, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by motorcarman
The only Jaguar XJ/XK V8 wheels I know of that will fit the X300 are the X308 VDP with hub caps. The others will need to be modified in some way because of the front hubs.

bob gauff
Panchostatus has that combo, maybe he can tell us.

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Here is another X305 with that wheel:
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Look damn good, huh?

Someone even put them on their XJ Coupe racecar:
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Actually looks OK with the the old body.

There is also another, somewhat similar, XKR wheel that looks pretty good on the X300:
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Old May 21, 2012 | 10:04 PM
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I have seen the wheels installed WITHOUT the metal hub bearing caps but the grease might leak out!!!!

Maybe there is a different cap??????

bob gauff
 
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Old May 21, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Another option that I've heard should work are the 5x120 wheels that are common on BMWs. 'Course the BMW logos would be removed!

These wheels would work, since they're 16x7, +20mm offset, with a 74mm hub opening:
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I'd prefer these wheels (16x7, +20), but the hub opening is just a pube too small, at 72.56 (I believe the stock Jag ones are 73mm):
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