XJS ( X27 ) 1975 - 1996 3.6 4.0 5.3 6.0

Putting XJS on Rotisserie

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 09-11-2013, 03:07 AM
Yodapom's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Taupo NZ
Posts: 51
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Putting XJS on Rotisserie

I am looking to build a Rotisserie to put my Jag on so I can access the underside without all the dramas of hoists or lying on the concrete.

It will also make the sandblasting and painting just that much easier.

Biggest question is how much weight can the round bumper receptacles hold?

Has anyone been through this or jacked their wagon up by the bumpers?

Cheers All

Steve
 
  #2  
Old 09-11-2013, 03:46 AM
warrjon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Vic Australia
Posts: 4,638
Received 2,576 Likes on 1,712 Posts
Default

You could do something like this but instead of bolting it the to the hub bolt it to the subframe mounting points

http://www.kwecars.com/jaguar/proces...ewal-packages/
 
  #3  
Old 09-11-2013, 03:51 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,331
Received 9,079 Likes on 5,347 Posts
Default

I have never done it, but (at the risk of stating the obvious) I think it would be essential to remove all the engine and drivetrain, radiators, and front and rear subframes, first.

Then, what I would do is to make a rig than utilised the bumper tubes, as you mention; but which also incorporated a very stiff frame that bolts up to the rear wheelarch chassis rails at the subframe rubber mounting points, and bolts up to the front lower chassis rails at the front subframe V mount points (rear of the subframe), and is very well braced longitudinally between these two, and horizontally across the mountings. The bumper tubes are not that strongly braced across the frame, particularly if the front lower crossmember is corroded;

The monocoque would be well supported like that, but when turned upside down, the stiffness of the rotisserie frame in the longitudinal and horizontal axis would be the crucial to prevent unwanted folding front to back, and 'banana-ing' when on its side;

Greg
 
  #4  
Old 09-11-2013, 06:18 AM
baxtor's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,880
Received 1,122 Likes on 730 Posts
Default

I have mine on rotisserie at the moment. I used stubs of rhs welded to main support each end and these inserted into bumper tubes and are held in place with through bolt. Simple construction and very nearly right on the balance point. No problem with flex of any kind at any angle.
I should add my car is stripped body only. I think the set up would handle front and rear suspension weight but any more might be risky.
 

Last edited by baxtor; 09-11-2013 at 08:01 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Yodapom (09-11-2013)
  #5  
Old 09-11-2013, 06:45 AM
baxtor's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,880
Received 1,122 Likes on 730 Posts
Default

Here are a couple of pics might better illustrate than my words.
 
Attached Thumbnails Putting XJS on Rotisserie-dsc07941-large-.jpg   Putting XJS on Rotisserie-dsc07945-large-.jpg  

Last edited by baxtor; 09-11-2013 at 06:54 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Yodapom (09-11-2013)
  #6  
Old 09-11-2013, 10:46 AM
ronbros's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Austin tx and Daytona FL.
Posts: 7,362
Received 1,231 Likes on 939 Posts
Default

i used a rotessiore for my restore, pretty much same as baxtor, fully stripped to the body.

with all the engine,trans. frt & rear suspension and all,one would have to be very carefull on the roll over position when much of the weight transfers past neutral position!

once it starts to move past, you may not be able to hold it, could use some overhead hoists, on each side.maybe!

rotessiore is the only way, in a home garage, to do a GOOD restore project.

i have pix,but they are on a VHS tape, done in early 90s. the whole restore,2hrs long, and some of it boring, except to another restorer!
 
The following users liked this post:
Yodapom (09-11-2013)
  #7  
Old 09-11-2013, 12:47 PM
Yodapom's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Taupo NZ
Posts: 51
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Thanks Guys

Thanks for the photos. Gives me a lot more confidence to proceed. Biggest mounting problem with using the subframe mounting points is the amount of steel in the way for all the future works (Blasting and Painting).

I am intending to have the car completely sand blasted and am currently stripping it. Have engine, trans, front and rear sub-frame off so far. Only have the boot and inside to strip before the blaster gets to remove all the previous owners sins.

They did a full respray back in 1995 but couldnt get it started so just gave up and parked it up where the paint blistered under the covers so I have to start again.
 
  #8  
Old 09-11-2013, 12:50 PM
Yodapom's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Taupo NZ
Posts: 51
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Change that VHS to digital

Originally Posted by ronbros
i used a rotessiore for my restore, pretty much same as baxtor, fully stripped to the body.

with all the engine,trans. frt & rear suspension and all,one would have to be very carefull on the roll over position when much of the weight transfers past neutral position!

once it starts to move past, you may not be able to hold it, could use some overhead hoists, on each side.maybe!

rotessiore is the only way, in a home garage, to do a GOOD restore project.

i have pix,but they are on a VHS tape, done in early 90s. the whole restore,2hrs long, and some of it boring, except to another restorer!
You need to convert it to digital for us tragics'. May save a lot of pondering of how to do something by someone who has done it before
 
  #9  
Old 09-12-2013, 04:05 PM
ronbros's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Austin tx and Daytona FL.
Posts: 7,362
Received 1,231 Likes on 939 Posts
Default

my intension, is to give the tape to the one who buys the car, that way he can actually see what is done, mostly for the engine and trans. building and installations.

and all the welding and body work, plus the expensive paint work, all suspension ,brake mods , it seems endless!
 
Attached Thumbnails Putting XJS on Rotisserie-jaguar-engine-build-process-001.jpg   Putting XJS on Rotisserie-jaguar-engine-build-process.jpg  
  #10  
Old 09-12-2013, 05:27 PM
RCG's Avatar
RCG
RCG is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 145
Received 27 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Just out of vulgar curiosity, did I read somewhere that that engine weighs in the neighborhood of 700 lbs.?
 
  #11  
Old 09-13-2013, 05:48 PM
ronbros's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Austin tx and Daytona FL.
Posts: 7,362
Received 1,231 Likes on 939 Posts
Default

the jag V12 weighs in around 700-725lbs, full dressed, its a heavy *****.

use strong hoist to lift one out of the engine bay, you dont want any surprises!
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
mbergen
XJS ( X27 )
7
10-23-2019 10:26 PM
PMKimpton
X-Type ( X400 )
15
08-03-2019 08:22 PM
dsnyder586
XJ XJ8 / XJR ( X308 )
55
04-04-2019 02:38 PM
deanh
XF and XFR ( X250 )
3
09-06-2015 08:20 PM
SouthernGypsy
XJS ( X27 )
5
09-03-2015 10:54 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Putting XJS on Rotisserie



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:52 PM.