XK / XKR ( X150 ) 2006 - 2014

Trickle Charging

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 08:09 AM
  #1  
Ruairidh's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 19
Likes: 5
From: Hampshire but Barbados some of the year
Default Trickle Charging

Left my car for a month. Wife did not use car? Usually I leave on a jaguar supplied trickle charger working via boot connected via lighter type socket. It’s a 2013 XK convertible.
Works so well as proven that after a month of no use, car would not start. So lesson learned, use trickle or get wife to actually use the car.
And also carry very large jump cables, specifically for large engines , mine are for 4.5L plus engine. Smaller ones won’t work.
(The car manual is hopelessly vague on location of the battery terminals: positive is easy to find but negative— could Not find. Tip from YouTube was, use the exhaust pipe as negative)
 

Last edited by Ruairidh; Dec 24, 2017 at 08:15 AM.
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 09:45 AM
  #2  
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 27,519
Likes: 4,910
From: Yorkshire, England
Default

Any hefty (solid) metal some distance away from battery.
 
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 10:53 AM
  #3  
GGG's Avatar
GGG
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 120,439
Likes: 17,006
From: Durham, UK
Default

If your XK has a spare wheel, you'll see the negative stud on the luggage compartment floor to the right of it - should be covered with a black cap.

If you don't have a spare but have the tyre repair kit instead, then you'll have to remove the carpet trim item 6 to find the negative stud:

Trickle Charging-luggage-compartment.jpg

Graham
 
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 11:12 AM
  #4  
Stuart S's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 10,111
Likes: 7,120
From: Atlanta suburbs
Default

Originally Posted by Ruairidh
Left my car for a month. Wife did not use car? Usually I leave on a jaguar supplied trickle charger working via boot connected via lighter type socket. It’s a 2013 XK convertible.
Works so well as proven that after a month of no use, car would not start. So lesson learned, use trickle or get wife to actually use the car.
And also carry very large jump cables, specifically for large engines , mine are for 4.5L plus engine. Smaller ones won’t work.
(The car manual is hopelessly vague on location of the battery terminals: positive is easy to find but negative— could Not find. Tip from YouTube was, use the exhaust pipe as negative)
Search this Forum for threads about battery maintainers - there are many, including detailed installation instructions with photos. Click SEARCH, then Advanced Search, type in CTEK installation, search in the X150 Forum. I'll make it easy for you : https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...lation-107738/

You stated that you have a Jaguar supplied trickle charger. Most likely it's not a trickle charger, but a smart battery maintainer made by CTEK - a model 3300 co-branded with a Jaguar Leaper logo. If it's a trickle charger, throw it away and buy a CTEK.

Since your X150 is 5.0L model with a special circuit, you can attach the positive lead of the battery maintainer directly to the positive battery terminal, but the negative lead of your battery maintainer must be attached to a chassis ground and not directly to the negative battery terminal. Most likely that's how the cigarette lighter socket was connected to your battery, which is located behind a removable panel in the boot. If you plug your maintainer directly into your cigarette lighter in the car, it won't work because that cigarette lighter circuit is switched and is open (off) when the car is off, so electricity won't flow to the battery.
 

Last edited by Stuart S; Dec 24, 2017 at 06:30 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 04:50 PM
  #5  
Ruairidh's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 19
Likes: 5
From: Hampshire but Barbados some of the year
Default I do use Ctek charger from Jaguar not a trickle charger.

Thanks for the feedback. I wish the manual was better as I could not fix without going home and YouTube input.

Might now have a problem with a circuit or two as the heating is definitely not working, air sensor says it’s -40c. And an odd service indicator. Might disappear once I left battery to properly recharge overnight.
Kept saying apply brake and parking brake.
 
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2017 | 05:15 PM
  #6  
GGG's Avatar
GGG
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 120,439
Likes: 17,006
From: Durham, UK
Default

A flat battery has a similar effect to a battery disconnect/reconnect - all the adapative settings are lost.

You should follow the same procedure as a reconnection (see red box):



As the vehicle is maintained on a CTEK, I think the battery could be failing.

Graham
 
Attached Thumbnails Trickle Charging-battery.jpg  
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2017 | 02:18 AM
  #7  
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 27,519
Likes: 4,910
From: Yorkshire, England
Default

Originally Posted by Ruairidh
Thanks for the feedback. I wish the manual was better as I could not fix without going home and YouTube input.

Might now have a problem with a circuit or two as the heating is definitely not working, air sensor says it’s -40c. And an odd service indicator. Might disappear once I left battery to properly recharge overnight.
Kept saying apply brake and parking brake.
That last part is a classic sign of low voltage.

That in turn can throw false codes.

So, start with getting good power.
 
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2017 | 06:08 AM
  #8  
Ruairidh's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 19
Likes: 5
From: Hampshire but Barbados some of the year
Default

Thanks all.
I followed GGG Graham advice for a system restart. The heating is still not working at all. No ac, front screen and rear not working, fans not working and no actual heat. Lights come on and touch screen shows controls but no action. The window mechanisms work fine.

Power is full, as per cteck, the external temperature still shows -40C. It’s actually +2C..

So it looks like I’ll have to get dealer to check.
 
Reply
Old Dec 28, 2017 | 06:53 AM
  #9  
jagtoes's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 5,209
Likes: 1,847
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by Ruairidh
Thanks all.
I followed GGG Graham advice for a system restart. The heating is still not working at all. No ac, front screen and rear not working, fans not working and no actual heat. Lights come on and touch screen shows controls but no action. The window mechanisms work fine.

Power is full, as per cteck, the external temperature still shows -40C. It’s actually +2C..

So it looks like I’ll have to get dealer to check.
What is the voltage at the battery . Ctek is a battery maintainer and not a full charger. Check the voltage with a meter.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gadams54
XK / XKR ( X150 )
8
Apr 14, 2017 03:04 PM
bradstuff
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
2
Dec 18, 2016 02:58 PM
JWheaton10
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
19
Nov 1, 2016 04:58 PM
Pookster208
XJ6 & XJ12 Series I, II & III
4
Feb 13, 2008 03:14 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:54 PM.