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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Hello!
I have a Jag 2010 XKR with 37 000 Km ~ 23000 miles.

The dealer asks just for pads ~ 700 USD.
The strange part is that the back pads are much expensive than the front pads!

So, I will go for an Independent shop, but I want to be sure about the parts.

1. What type of oil does this car use? What quantity?
2. I've found many options for pads, some marked "not for Sport package" (I suppose is not for R) and I do not know what to choose.

TRW
Metelli
Valeo
ABE
LPR
Wagner

What type of pad produce lower dust? I hate the dust...
 
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 12:15 PM
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Correct engine oil for AJ-V8 is SAE 5W-30 meeting specification WSS-M2C-913B.

The engine lubrication system holds 8.5 litres of oil.

Ceramic brake pads produce the least amount of dust. Many on this forum recommend Akebono ceramic brake pads.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 01:05 PM
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Thank you!

I cannot find Akebono in Europe and the big question for me is:
The ceramic pads work with the original brake rotor?

On Akebono online catalog, I can only find pads for rear axle, when I select my car.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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Yeah, you won't find Akebono for the fronts on the 2010+ cars.
EBC, Centric, and TRW are popular ceramic pads.
See this thread, in which you already posted:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...c-pads-165708/
 
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 04:21 PM
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...Russia? Really? I'm impressed.
Even though I just went though a similar situation, and have a very similar car (2010 XKR with 22,000 miles), my suggestions are based on my experience in Southern California, so probably not of much help (as an example, it's easy to find the recommended Castrol synthetic here).
But I can confirm that I just had my rear pads replaced at similar mileage to you, and when the car was up on the lift we had a good look at all the pads and the fronts still had about 7mm left, but the rears definitely needed replacing. Good luck.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2016 | 11:20 PM
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Only two rotors options for our 2010XKR, stock(ATE), and Alcons.
Not sure where the term "Not for sport package" comes to play, but ATE .vs Alcon are easy distinctions in any parts catalog.

Just tossed EBC Yellowstuff on all four corners of my 2010. It was the rears tossing the worn pad error as everyone has discovered. $141 fro the front pair, $100 for the rear. $60 for the pad wear sensor.
These are high grip pads, and pretty dusty (although not as bad as OEM)

Everything else available (Akebono, Centric, and TRW) are just basic run of the mill ceramics, which grip with heavy foot effort, and don't modulate worth a darn, but they are low dust.

If your a spirited driver, Yellowstuff is your only performance choice. Beyond that ceramic is ceramic, and any name on the box will do fine.

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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 04:26 AM
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Thank you!

I'll try to put ECB Redstuff on front and back.

Front code: DP32076C
Back code: DP32059C

This ECB Redstuff will work with my original rotors? YES?

This is the catalog
 
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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosferatu
Thank you!

I'll try to put ECB Redstuff on front and back.

Front code: DP32076C
Back code: DP32059C

This ECB Redstuff will work with my original rotors? YES?
This is the catalog
With ATE calipers, you have the correct part numbers.

Ceramics (including Redstuff) are very easy on any OEM rotor, they are good choice for your needs. Just don't expect them to hold up on a track, as they will fade out quickly.

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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 09:33 AM
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If you havent' done this before, you need a special tool for the calipers to push the pistons back in. I found this out the hard way. My rotors were fairly dished and the only way to get the pads off was to grind them.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CleverName
With ATE calipers, you have the correct part numbers.
Ignorant question:

How do you know which caliper you have? In my case, I have a 2010 XK Portfolio so I'm assuming ATE?

also, my driver door placard is missing so I can not check option codes (if it were listed there)

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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nasomi
If you haven't done this before, you need a special tool for the calipers to push the pistons back in. I found this out the hard way. My rotors were fairly dished and the only way to get the pads off was to grind them.
I'll go to a shop.
I hope they have the tool, as it's not only for this car.


I've read the "Electronic Parking Brake calibration" pdf.

@shemp
Go to Jaguar Topix
Create an account, login and add your VIN number.
You will find all the info about your car.

A very useful topic here
 

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Old Oct 13, 2016 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by shemp
How do you know which caliper you have? In my case, I have a 2010 XK Portfolio so I'm assuming ATE?
if your on 19" rims, you have ATE. Pretty sure Alcons only fit inside a 20" rim, but I'll defer to those that have then to confirm. You can have ATE in 19" or 20" rims

Talking 2010 rotor diameter: Front/Rear
XK: 355mm/326mm (13.98"/12.83")
XKR with ATE: 380mm/376mm (15"/14.8")
XKR W/Alcon: 400mm/350mm (15.75"/13.78")


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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 02:52 AM
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I've ordered from ebay.co.uk a set of ECB Redstuff

Now I'm hunting for wear sensors...

Some pads claim "not to be prepared for wear sensors"!

Front Pads:

TRW GDB1963
ATE 13.0470-7210.2 (Ceramic) (0460 range are standard)
JURID 573150J-AS (std) 573150JC (Ceramic)
Pagid T1550
Ferodo FDB1883
EBC DP32076C (Ceramic)
Brembo P 36 025
Textar 2447401

Back Pads:
TRW GDB1877
Jaguar C2D3792
ATE 13.0460-7255.2
EBC DP32059C (Ceramic)
Textar 2511401
 
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 05:40 AM
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If you haven't triggered the low brake pad warning the existing sensors are re-usable, assuming you don't damage them when removing the old pads.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 06:02 AM
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I've triggered the sensor warning.
Just ordered now from britparts.co.uk

DP32076C - front pads
DP32059C - rear pads
C2P12722 and C2D2976 - wear sensors
 
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NBCat
Correct engine oil for AJ-V8 is SAE 5W-30 meeting specification WSS-M2C-913B.
The engine lubrication system holds 8.5 litres of oil.
I have one bottle of Oil to top up if needed ( I never did) and it's Castrol SAE 5W20.

I've read that "Jaguar has replaced the 5W-20 with 0W-20".

So... what do I use?
 

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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Nosferatu
I've triggered the sensor warning.
Just ordered now from britparts.co.uk

DP32076C - front pads
DP32059C - rear pads
C2P12722 and C2D2976 - wear sensors

The rear sensor is most likely the one that triggered.

I reused my front, as I had plenty of pad up there.

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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 08:00 PM
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I recently changed my oil (2010 XK), and my Jag dealer sold me 5-20, not 0-20. They check every time to be sure I get the right stuff.
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Old Oct 14, 2016 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nosferatu
I have one bottle of Oil to top up if needed ( I never did) and it's Castrol SAE 5W20.

I've read that "Jaguar has replaced the 5W-20 with 0W-20".

So... what do I use?
Here's what your owner's manual says:

"Use only 5W-20 engine oil, meeting
specification WSS M2C925-A.
Jaguar recommends:
Castrol SLX Professional OE 5W-20.
In an emergency, if the oil of the above
specification is unavailable, the engine can be
topped-up using a maximum of 1 litre (2 US
Pints) of 5W-20 oil meeting specification
ILSACGF-4 API SM."
 
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Old Oct 15, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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The problem is that Castrol 5W20 SLX seems to be dealer only.
The attached document suggests that Castrol 0W20 EDGE Professional is the new "standard".
 
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