1999 XK8 4.0L Breather Restrictor
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1999 XK8 4.0L Breather Restrictor
Hi, this is my first post on this Forum. Back Story - in Bahrain, I have a 1999 Jag XK8 4.0L (naturally aspirated ) with only 72,000km (see pic). I had sold my Porsche as it was too reliable and not much fun to work on in my garage so I was looking for a fixer-upper car as a hobby. This Jag had been sitting in a VIP's garage gathering dust for two and half years so the VIP heard that I was looking so he virtually gave me the car on the condition that I restore it to original. I've been working on it since March 2018 to initially get it on the road, and am now I'm looking to get it back to concourse condition. I'm almost there but have a number of questions which I'm hoping the people on the forum can help me with.
First question - There's no PCV valve, but where can I a new breather restrictor #XR828442 as no longer available in my usual sources. Do I have to take off the complete camshaft cover to install it?
First question - There's no PCV valve, but where can I a new breather restrictor #XR828442 as no longer available in my usual sources. Do I have to take off the complete camshaft cover to install it?
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the restrictor does not require replacement, only cleaning. if you search here, there is a drill bit recommendation to clean it out. later models do not even require this service. if yours is not cracked, it should be fine. what needs to be checked is that the hose leading to the TB is not collapsed. this can be replaced with common materials.
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1999 XK8 4.0L Convertible Breather Restrictor
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Thanks for that, but I'm aware of what you said - Hand clean restrictor with 2.5mm drill bit etc. I uncovered this particular problem when I was changing out the spark plugs. As I had to take out the air inlet pipe and breather hose to access the spark plugs, I noticed the attachment point had cracked. See Pic
Hence my question of where to get a new breather restrictor and more importantly whether I need to take the camshaft cover off to install a new one. I'm reluctant "jury rig" a glued solution, but old plastic parts in the hot engine bay is not a good combination.
Thanks for that, but I'm aware of what you said - Hand clean restrictor with 2.5mm drill bit etc. I uncovered this particular problem when I was changing out the spark plugs. As I had to take out the air inlet pipe and breather hose to access the spark plugs, I noticed the attachment point had cracked. See Pic
Hence my question of where to get a new breather restrictor and more importantly whether I need to take the camshaft cover off to install a new one. I'm reluctant "jury rig" a glued solution, but old plastic parts in the hot engine bay is not a good combination.
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The bad news is I fear that part isn't replaceable without replacing the whole cam cover.
The good news is I don't actually know what I'm talking about
But to be serious, when I look up the part number you mention, it looks like a different part than the broken one. Part 8 on the diagram linked below looks like part of the tube, not the broken socket coming out of the engine. Part 8 looks like the elbow you have in your hand in the picture above.
On my '97 it looks like the socket coming out of the cover has been epoxied into the cover pretty solidly. I wouldn't expect to be able to replace it. Maybe your later model engine does it differently, though.
https://www.jaguarclassicparts.com/uk/part/XR828442
The good news is I don't actually know what I'm talking about
But to be serious, when I look up the part number you mention, it looks like a different part than the broken one. Part 8 on the diagram linked below looks like part of the tube, not the broken socket coming out of the engine. Part 8 looks like the elbow you have in your hand in the picture above.
On my '97 it looks like the socket coming out of the cover has been epoxied into the cover pretty solidly. I wouldn't expect to be able to replace it. Maybe your later model engine does it differently, though.
https://www.jaguarclassicparts.com/uk/part/XR828442
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To complicate matters, I think the previous owners may have swapped the engine as there were all the historical problems with the Nikasil bore liners in the early models, so someone probably took the decision to change the engine.
Signs of possible engine swap I noticed -
1. 78,000 km for a 20 year old car is "tad" unreasonable
2. Car registration documents has the original engine no. but the matching engine plate is missing (should be located near throttle body). Can't see the match cast no on the side of the engine
3. When I serviced the oil solenoids (for the secondary tensioners on the quad cam), they didn't exactly match the engine drawings I saw on line.
Any other ideas to fix/place this broken breather restrictor socket fitting? I don't want to replace entire camshaft cover, and I don't want to "jury rig" a collar/extension/reducer thingy?
Signs of possible engine swap I noticed -
1. 78,000 km for a 20 year old car is "tad" unreasonable
2. Car registration documents has the original engine no. but the matching engine plate is missing (should be located near throttle body). Can't see the match cast no on the side of the engine
3. When I serviced the oil solenoids (for the secondary tensioners on the quad cam), they didn't exactly match the engine drawings I saw on line.
Any other ideas to fix/place this broken breather restrictor socket fitting? I don't want to replace entire camshaft cover, and I don't want to "jury rig" a collar/extension/reducer thingy?
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if it is not at the thermostat tower look next to one of the motor mounts on the block, forgot which side, for a stamping with the date of manufacture and production number. call on a Jaguar dealer with your body VIN and obtain the engine number and date that your car should have and compare.
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Think it was still by the tstat at least in the earlier AJ27.
Here's a clip from a pic. taken by member Dale Dunn (in his case 1999 car but the motor is 2000).
Its visibility seems to depend on how enthusiastic the engraver was on the day, so might be easier to take the VIN to the dealer as White Hat suggests.
Here's a clip from a pic. taken by member Dale Dunn (in his case 1999 car but the motor is 2000).
Its visibility seems to depend on how enthusiastic the engraver was on the day, so might be easier to take the VIN to the dealer as White Hat suggests.
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Gents,
No luck on finding the engine no in the car. Jag said for my Chassis SAJJGAFD4AC035228, the matching engine no is ND9811101726.... but I'll need to confirm what engine have as there's been developments.
First I found there there's no Breather restrictor.
For my breather hose problem, I did manage to find the missing engine collar connector part in the breather hose end clamp so cleaned it all up carefully and used high temp epoxy to glue the collar socket back together. I used a bit of soft grit paper to smooth all the edges and voila. I ran the engine and there was no leak! Result! I avoided the tricky job of having to take off the camshaft cover. But...
As we all know, when you fix something, you either break something else during the job, or you notice something else broken. In doing this job, I noticed a strong oil smell and found out that oil was leaking from the camshaft cover seal. I now need to change the gasket! Now, as I suspect the engine has been switched, are the AJ26 and AJ27 covers identical? Otherwise the new gaskets ordered might be wrong!
No luck on finding the engine no in the car. Jag said for my Chassis SAJJGAFD4AC035228, the matching engine no is ND9811101726.... but I'll need to confirm what engine have as there's been developments.
First I found there there's no Breather restrictor.
For my breather hose problem, I did manage to find the missing engine collar connector part in the breather hose end clamp so cleaned it all up carefully and used high temp epoxy to glue the collar socket back together. I used a bit of soft grit paper to smooth all the edges and voila. I ran the engine and there was no leak! Result! I avoided the tricky job of having to take off the camshaft cover. But...
As we all know, when you fix something, you either break something else during the job, or you notice something else broken. In doing this job, I noticed a strong oil smell and found out that oil was leaking from the camshaft cover seal. I now need to change the gasket! Now, as I suspect the engine has been switched, are the AJ26 and AJ27 covers identical? Otherwise the new gaskets ordered might be wrong!
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Almost certain to be AJ27 but the location of the VVT will confirm which you have. See this post by Carnival Kid:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...4/#post1866618
Do replace the isolator washers (NCA2575CA) as part of the job: they are what presses the cam cover onto its gasket, and make sure that the lower flange of the captive spacers on the cover bolts passes through the holes in the gasket. There are small rubber flaps in each hole that are meant to locate behind the flange. You will see what I mean once you have things apart.
This will help to hold the gasket in place when you refit the cover and ensures that the spacers seat on the head without trapping the rubber.
This thread by aode06 shows the tightening sequence and torque figure:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...1/#post1099831
Almost certain to be AJ27 but the location of the VVT will confirm which you have. See this post by Carnival Kid:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...4/#post1866618
Do replace the isolator washers (NCA2575CA) as part of the job: they are what presses the cam cover onto its gasket, and make sure that the lower flange of the captive spacers on the cover bolts passes through the holes in the gasket. There are small rubber flaps in each hole that are meant to locate behind the flange. You will see what I mean once you have things apart.
This will help to hold the gasket in place when you refit the cover and ensures that the spacers seat on the head without trapping the rubber.
This thread by aode06 shows the tightening sequence and torque figure:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...1/#post1099831
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