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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Default 2002 keys - are they a chip key?

I've got a 2002 XKR convertible, and I can't find a definitive answer to my question:

Does this car take a chip key, or is it a simple cutting job for a spare key?

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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 12:30 PM
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The keys from 1998 onward for ALL Jaguars in the US have a transponder.(chip)

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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JaguaXJR
I've got a 2002 XKR convertible, and I can't find a definitive answer to my question:

Does this car take a chip key, or is it a simple cutting job for a spare key?

Thanks.
People have been able to find LockSmiths that are capable of grinding the Tibbe Key Blank, but cannot program it to the car; I came across someone in Yakima I think, which is ~1.5 hrs from where I live. This is still useful if you only have one Black Head Master Key like myself, as the copy of the key without the chip programmed will still unlock the door and trunk locks, but it will not start the car until programmed by Jaguar, or a garage with the proper equipment. This allows you to have a spare key to gain access to the vehicle in case you lock your 'real coded key' inside the cockpit or trunk; even worse if the car is running. It happens, just check the post page, a member currently has their keys locked in the trunk with the battery disconnected.
 

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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 06:12 PM
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You can also get another key fob/remote. These are very inexpensive on ebay and there is a DIY procedure on this forum for programming them to your car (the transponder key is not so easily programmed). The fob will allow you to gain access to the car and the trunk and also to disarm the security system.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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I put an extra key in a 'hide-a-key' box wrapped in foam and tucked it up in a shield under the back of the car.

My wife called one day and said she stopped off on her way to work to get a tire repaired for a leak (nail in the road, now in the tire). She was about 40 miles away and wanted to know if I could DROP EVERYTHING and bring a spare key??? I asked why and she said the kid repairing the tire locked the keys in the car!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did not even bother asking how.

I remembered the hide-a-key and told her to give the phone to the kid. I told him to lay on the ground behind the car and reach up........................

He said "I found it!!!!!".

He later told my wife "THANKS-YOU SAVED MY JOB".(plus I did not have to drive all over creation to deliver a key)

If you buy a cheap key for XJ40 or X300 and have the correct cuts made, the key can never start the engine but it will get you into the car. It can never be configured to the car because it lacks the transponder.

If you have a 1997 X100 and live in the U.S. then you don't have to worry about transponders.

Something to think about???

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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pbuck
You can also get another key fob/remote. These are very inexpensive on ebay and there is a DIY procedure on this forum for programming them to your car (the transponder key is not so easily programmed). The fob will allow you to gain access to the car and the trunk and also to disarm the security system.
I had been searching for about a year for an original Remote as my car did not come with one. I found one on site and bought it, but could not program it to my car because it was for an earlier VIN Range. Frustrated, I called the Ford Dealership's Parts Department as some parts interchange. They cross referenced the part number and had it in stock, I drove ~6 miles and paid $60.50 including tax, then programmed it in the parking lot, the only thing missing is the Growler Head impression. Although I still lock/unlock, arm/disarm the alarm with the key from time to time to exercise the mechanics in the lock cylinder.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 09:26 AM
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Could you possibly post the Ford part number for their version of the fob?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 10:17 AM
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Not the Ford part, but this one works fine on my 2001 XK8:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Check the FCC code on the original fob e.g. CWTWB1U322 and see if it matches.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 10:58 AM
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Thanks, pbuck...my 2000 XKR uses the earlier fob, but I appreciate the post.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnham
Could you possibly post the Ford part number for their version of the fob?
Numbers from the back of the new Remote from Ford:

FoMoCo ALPS
3B:8L3T-15K601-AB
4B:8S4T-15K601-AB
FCC ID: CWTWB1U345
IC: 1788A-FWB1U345
 
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 01:37 PM
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FCC ID: CWTWB1U345
So, maybe this one, then:
Amazon Amazon
 
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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 05:35 PM
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Mine has FCC ID code K8597T315.


Of course, I would have to have one that has no cheaper replacement .
 
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Originally Posted by motorcarman
I put an extra key in a 'hide-a-key' box wrapped in foam and tucked it up in a shield under the back of the car.

My wife called one day and said she stopped off on her way to work to get a tire repaired for a leak (nail in the road, now in the tire). She was about 40 miles away and wanted to know if I could DROP EVERYTHING and bring a spare key??? I asked why and she said the kid repairing the tire locked the keys in the car!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did not even bother asking how.

I remembered the hide-a-key and told her to give the phone to the kid. I told him to lay on the ground behind the car and reach up........................

He said "I found it!!!!!".

He later told my wife "THANKS-YOU SAVED MY JOB".(plus I did not have to drive all over creation to deliver a key)

If you buy a cheap key for XJ40 or X300 and have the correct cuts made, the key can never start the engine but it will get you into the car. It can never be configured to the car because it lacks the transponder.

If you have a 1997 X100 and live in the U.S. then you don't have to worry about transponders.

Something to think about???

bob
I'm in the U.S. and have a 1997 x100. It has a transponder.
 
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Old May 25, 2025 | 06:46 PM
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my Jaguar dealer (Jaguar Land Rover of Tulsa) made 2 extra keys for me that do everything a car key is supposed to do. The cost was
very reasonable.


If you need an extra key that will start the car et al then call around to dealers in your area. The cost might surprise you.

worth a shot.

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Old May 26, 2025 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by zray
my Jaguar dealer (Jaguar Land Rover of Tulsa) made 2 extra keys for me that do everything a car key is supposed to do. The cost was
very reasonable.


If you need an extra key that will start the car et al then call around to dealers in your area. The cost might surprise you.

worth a shot.

Z
I was commenting on the statement that 97s don't have a transponders. I've got a 97 that has one.
Was looking into getting a key. I misplaced one. Found it this morning.😊
I've got two keys, a regular one and a green valet key. From what I could come up with the green one just can't open the glove box or trunk?
If I had to get a key made, I think I might have a problem. From what I found, a scan tool is required. I've got some sort of canbus issue. It won't communicate with a scan tool. Ford's can be programmed if you have 2 good keys. Appears jaguars might be different.
 
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Old May 26, 2025 | 04:53 PM
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I know the 1997 X300 does not require key configuration for North American market but never had to configure the 1997 X100 so I thought it was the same for the X100?

My mistake for assuming the transponders for all jaguars started in 1998MY North America.
 
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Old May 26, 2025 | 07:34 PM
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FWIW, I only had one key when I had the Jaguar dealer make me two new ones..

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Originally Posted by motorcarman
I know the 1997 X300 does not require key configuration for North American market but never had to configure the 1997 X100 so I thought it was the same for the X100?

My mistake for assuming the transponders for all jaguars started in 1998MY North America.
From what information I could find jaguars have to have keys configured using WDS. So since my 2000 XKR has a canbus issue and won't communicate, is that going to prevent me from coding a key?

Another question. Ford's from the same time you could code the keys without scan tool if you had 2 good keys by cycling the keys and locking and unlocking the doors I think. It's been a long time and don't remember the exact procedure. Am I correct in thinking Jaguars won't do this?
 
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Originally Posted by BLKLSTD
From what information I could find jaguars have to have keys configured using WDS. So since my 2000 XKR has a canbus issue and won't communicate, is that going to prevent me from coding a key?

Another question. Ford's from the same time you could code the keys without scan tool if you had 2 good keys by cycling the keys and locking and unlocking the doors I think. It's been a long time and don't remember the exact procedure. Am I correct in thinking Jaguars won't do this?
If you have a working key, you can get that key copied by a locksmith with the right tools - as the new key is an exact copy of the old key it won't need to be coded to the car (so WDS won't be needed).

I doubt there is a shortcut to this involving cycling the door locks, but anything is possible.
 
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Old May 27, 2025 | 07:45 AM
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The 2 keys cycled and program the third works with the later cars like the S-Type.
 
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