Disturbing discovery
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Disturbing discovery
Hi all,
I've clogged the forum up over the last months with requests for help regarding headlight problems.
It surprises me how such a seamingly straightforward item as head lights could cause so much grief.
The problems include the headlights stubbornly insisting on focusing a few meters in front of the car leaving an astronomical sized black hole beyond. Try as I might I cannot find where the servos get their signal from, certainly there is no knob in the consul nor can I find any self levelling device elsewhere on the car or it's suspension.
In desperation I disassembled both adjusting servos and manually set them in a mid position then using the manual focusing knob whilst leaving the servos disconnected.
RH headlight filling with moisture. I have just resealed it and am hoping for the best. I did not install the 'T' breather mod as the headlight shell does not have the pipe as described by TSB. I'll see how it goes.
LH high beam intermittent.
I have now tracked down the source of an intermittent LH high beam. It is marginal female terminal where the harness plugs into the back of the headlight.
It looks perfect yet one terminal is causing trouble. I don't know how to disassemble the plug ,I guess I will need an auto electrician to cut off and install a new 6pin connector (any suggestions?).
Ive installed the best non xenon globes I can buy and at last it puts out some serious kangaroo/wombat detecting light. Absolutely essential for night driving in this neck of the woods.
But this is the really frightening thing. A marginal connector on one globe of headlights is a nuisance and reasonably easy to track down. A similar problem with one of the hundreds of terminals involved with the ECU or other computers
may be near impossible to find and totally debilitate the car and the hip pocket paying experts to try to find it. The most illuminated globe on the car would be the 'reduced performance engine fault light'.
Still in shock from having an ECU failure sometime ago I now look at every terminal with distrust and trepidation.
At the risk of repeating myself, the terminal looked perfect, offending wire solidly attachrd into the terminal block, the only possible difference between it and the other female pins is that a probe gently inserted into the oriface does not seem to be gripped as tightly ie the minute clips need to be bent inwards though I can see no way to do that without disassembly
Regards al
I've clogged the forum up over the last months with requests for help regarding headlight problems.
It surprises me how such a seamingly straightforward item as head lights could cause so much grief.
The problems include the headlights stubbornly insisting on focusing a few meters in front of the car leaving an astronomical sized black hole beyond. Try as I might I cannot find where the servos get their signal from, certainly there is no knob in the consul nor can I find any self levelling device elsewhere on the car or it's suspension.
In desperation I disassembled both adjusting servos and manually set them in a mid position then using the manual focusing knob whilst leaving the servos disconnected.
RH headlight filling with moisture. I have just resealed it and am hoping for the best. I did not install the 'T' breather mod as the headlight shell does not have the pipe as described by TSB. I'll see how it goes.
LH high beam intermittent.
I have now tracked down the source of an intermittent LH high beam. It is marginal female terminal where the harness plugs into the back of the headlight.
It looks perfect yet one terminal is causing trouble. I don't know how to disassemble the plug ,I guess I will need an auto electrician to cut off and install a new 6pin connector (any suggestions?).
Ive installed the best non xenon globes I can buy and at last it puts out some serious kangaroo/wombat detecting light. Absolutely essential for night driving in this neck of the woods.
But this is the really frightening thing. A marginal connector on one globe of headlights is a nuisance and reasonably easy to track down. A similar problem with one of the hundreds of terminals involved with the ECU or other computers
may be near impossible to find and totally debilitate the car and the hip pocket paying experts to try to find it. The most illuminated globe on the car would be the 'reduced performance engine fault light'.
Still in shock from having an ECU failure sometime ago I now look at every terminal with distrust and trepidation.
At the risk of repeating myself, the terminal looked perfect, offending wire solidly attachrd into the terminal block, the only possible difference between it and the other female pins is that a probe gently inserted into the oriface does not seem to be gripped as tightly ie the minute clips need to be bent inwards though I can see no way to do that without disassembly
Regards al
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If you have the HIDs, there is a ride height sensor attached to the control arms, front and rear. They send the signal to the body processor which then sends it to the relay and both fuses and then to the headlamp levelling control modules inside each headlamp which is integral to the ballast. Each headlamp has a fuse and there is a relay also. If the relays and fuses are okay, analysis of this system is probably best done by the dealer.
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But this is the really frightening thing. A marginal connector on one globe of headlights is a nuisance and reasonably easy to track down. A similar problem with one of the hundreds of terminals involved with the ECU or other computers
may be near impossible to find and totally debilitate the car and the hip pocket paying experts to try to find it. The most illuminated globe on the car would be the 'reduced performance engine fault light'.
Still in shock from having an ECU failure sometime ago I now look at every terminal with distrust and trepidation.
At the risk of repeating myself, the terminal looked perfect, offending wire solidly attachrd into the terminal block, the only possible difference between it and the other female pins is that a probe gently inserted into the oriface does not seem to be gripped as tightly ie the minute clips need to be bent inwards though I can see no way to do that without disassembly
Regards al
There was probably a manufacturing flaw in the pin or the crimp. This is rare, but as with anything man-made, it can happen.
The only chronic connector issues on the XK8/R that I am aware of are the underrated ground pin on the early tailights and the tin plated throttle body pin that should have been gold plated (there was a TSB for this, as gold is necessary on very low curent connections). Both of these were design errors.
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Alan E L (08-14-2013)
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The issue here is a classic example of the importance of this information to get relevant replies. Your 1997 headlamps are totally different from my 2005. About the only common factor is Jaguar still hadn't fixed the misting issue by the Final Series!
Graham
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Alan E L (08-14-2013)
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The car is a 97 xk8 coupe, Australian delivery
Still trying to work out the exact workings of the self levelling unit. The fact that they bothinsisted on returning to the lowest focus must indicate that they are getting a signal from somewhere.
I've looked at the wiring diagram but it doesn't tell me where the sender is
Al
Ps
The jag is off on quite a big trip tomorrow, this is a chance for it to redeem itself
Still trying to work out the exact workings of the self levelling unit. The fact that they bothinsisted on returning to the lowest focus must indicate that they are getting a signal from somewhere.
I've looked at the wiring diagram but it doesn't tell me where the sender is
Al
Ps
The jag is off on quite a big trip tomorrow, this is a chance for it to redeem itself
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To restate the above:HID Headlight leveling is automatically controlled by 2 ride height sensors attached to the control arms, 1 front and 1 rear. (Level Sensor - Jaguar # C2N1616)
They send the signal to the body processor, which then sends it to the relay and both fuses, and then to the headlamp levelling control modules inside each headlamp (which is integral to the ballast).
Each headlamp has a fuse and there is also a relay.
Level Sensor - Jaguar (C2N1616)
They send the signal to the body processor, which then sends it to the relay and both fuses, and then to the headlamp levelling control modules inside each headlamp (which is integral to the ballast).
Each headlamp has a fuse and there is also a relay.
Level Sensor - Jaguar (C2N1616)
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But this is the really frightening thing. A marginal connector on one globe of headlights is a nuisance and reasonably easy to track down. A similar problem with one of the hundreds of terminals involved with the ECU or other computers
may be near impossible to find and totally debilitate the car and the hip pocket paying experts to try to find it.
may be near impossible to find and totally debilitate the car and the hip pocket paying experts to try to find it.
I think you've been a bit unlucky but the cars are now getting old so sooner or later more such problems are likely, just as engines are going to fail and other cars are going to write cars off. (And so on.)
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