Factory telephone?
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If your car was pre-wired for factory Bluetooth telephone (look for yellow connector under cubby box insert), another option is the BT45-JAG audio adapter from Discount Car Stereo (Discount Car Stereo) for $160. It is not necessary to install the wireless remote control included with the kit, as all of its functions can be performed using the phone's touchscreen. In addition, you can use either the microphone included with the kit or, if you prefer, a Jaguar OEM microphone (C2P17101AMN, about $135, if not already installed).
OEM Microphone (C2P17101AMN)
Yellow Connector Indicating Pre-Wiring for Phone
OEM Microphone (C2P17101AMN)
Yellow Connector Indicating Pre-Wiring for Phone
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If your car was pre-wired for factory Bluetooth telephone (look for yellow connector under cubby box insert), another option is the BT45-JAG audio adapter from Discount Car Stereo (Discount Car Stereo) for $160. It is not necessary to install the wireless remote control included with the kit, as all of its functions can be performed using the phone's touchscreen. In addition, you can use either the microphone included with the kit or, if you prefer, a Jaguar OEM microphone (C2P17101AMN, about $135, if not already installed).
OEM Microphone (C2P17101AMN)
Yellow Connector Indicating Pre-Wiring for Phone
OEM Microphone (C2P17101AMN)
Yellow Connector Indicating Pre-Wiring for Phone
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They all have the main yellow harness connector. Only vehicles fitted with Bluetooth have anything connected to it. Here is my 2005 XK8 showing the BT link lead plugged into the harness connector:
BT equipped vehicles have the phone module behind the rear seat back:
BT was an expensive option rarely chosen by original buyers when the vehicle specification didn't already include it.
Graham
BT equipped vehicles have the phone module behind the rear seat back:
BT was an expensive option rarely chosen by original buyers when the vehicle specification didn't already include it.
Graham
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This is incorrect. My car did not have the Bluetooth module factory installed, i.e., there was nothing connected to the yellow harness connector, nor was there a phone module behind the seat back. The BT45-JAG audio adapter performs the same functions as both of these. I also did not have a factory-installed microphone. I purchased one and installed it myself; it integrates perfectly with the BT45-JAG unit. To determine if your vehicle was pre-wired for a phone, go to the VIN Decoder on this forum & enter your VIN.
A nice "bonus" of using the BT45-JAG is that it not only gives you hands-free Bluetooth but also allows you to stream any audio (including, e.g., iTunes, Pandora, Google Maps, Sirius XM) through the car's stereo speakers.
Full details on my installation are here: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ay-how-200834/
Post #11 in the thread provides the update on how I installed the BT45-JAG.
A nice "bonus" of using the BT45-JAG is that it not only gives you hands-free Bluetooth but also allows you to stream any audio (including, e.g., iTunes, Pandora, Google Maps, Sirius XM) through the car's stereo speakers.
Full details on my installation are here: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ay-how-200834/
Post #11 in the thread provides the update on how I installed the BT45-JAG.
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This is incorrect. My car did not have the Bluetooth module factory installed, i.e., there was nothing connected to the yellow harness connector, nor was there a phone module behind the seat back. The BT45-JAG audio adapter performs the same functions as both of these. I also did not have a factory-installed microphone. I purchased one and installed it myself; it integrates perfectly with the BT45-JAG unit. To determine if your vehicle was pre-wired for a phone, go to the VIN Decoder on this forum & enter your VIN.
A nice "bonus" of using the BT45-JAG is that it not only gives you hands-free Bluetooth but also allows you to stream any audio (including, e.g., iTunes, Pandora, Google Maps, Sirius XM) through the car's stereo speakers.
Full details on my installation are here: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ay-how-200834/
Post #11 in the thread provides the update on how I installed the BT45-JAG.
A nice "bonus" of using the BT45-JAG is that it not only gives you hands-free Bluetooth but also allows you to stream any audio (including, e.g., iTunes, Pandora, Google Maps, Sirius XM) through the car's stereo speakers.
Full details on my installation are here: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ay-how-200834/
Post #11 in the thread provides the update on how I installed the BT45-JAG.
Pretty much any handsfree Bluetooth kit can be added to the X100 via that yellow connector and audio streaming can be added by splicing into the CD player audio leads, or connecting via the tape deck (there are various mods documented on the forum to hardwire this).
The BT45-JAG unit is plug and play, but doesn't really do anything special, other than being an easy install.
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Huh, Dibbit's page for the BT45-JAG shows a simple harness to go from the factory install microphone to a 3.5mm plug.
Does anyone know how that wiring works?
I've never been able to get my microphone to register by just plugging its two wires into an input jack. Even hooking an oscilloscope to the leads doesn't show any reaction to sound.
Taking the microphone apart, it has Motorola markings and a bunch of active components (capacitors and opamps) built into it, so I assume I need to apply voltage somehow.
If anyone has any leads on how to wire the microphone into a standard stereo mic in port, I'd appreciate the pointer.
(Someday I'll make a top level post about this, but since it's coming up here...)
Does anyone know how that wiring works?
I've never been able to get my microphone to register by just plugging its two wires into an input jack. Even hooking an oscilloscope to the leads doesn't show any reaction to sound.
Taking the microphone apart, it has Motorola markings and a bunch of active components (capacitors and opamps) built into it, so I assume I need to apply voltage somehow.
If anyone has any leads on how to wire the microphone into a standard stereo mic in port, I'd appreciate the pointer.
(Someday I'll make a top level post about this, but since it's coming up here...)
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It's powered along the signal wire, in a similar way that a TV antenna amplifier or satellite LNB is.
Unless whatever you're plugging it into is designed for this, you will need to conjure up a supply for the mic.
Something like this:
I'm not sure what voltage it expects, although 5V would likely be a good starting point.
Unless whatever you're plugging it into is designed for this, you will need to conjure up a supply for the mic.
Something like this:
I'm not sure what voltage it expects, although 5V would likely be a good starting point.
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The BT45-JAG consists of seven parts: (1) an audio adapter module, (3) a 12-foot audio cable, (3) a short 6-pin to 3.5mm stereo mini-plug adapter, (4) the BT45-JAG module, (5) a wiring harness, (6) a microphone, and (7) a wireless remote control. The audio adapter is installed between the CD changer and the power amplifier; the 12-foot audio cable runs from it to the center cubby box where the multi-pin phone plug is located. The adapter cable connects the audio cable to the BT45-JAG module. The wiring harness connects to the multi-pin phone plug; it terminates in another multi-pin plug and a 3.5mm stereo mini-plug. The plug also connects to the BT45-JAG; if you have a factory microphone installed, the 3.5mm mini-plug connects to the BT45-JAG's "MIC" input. If you choose to use the microphone included in the kit, its 3.5mm mini-plug is instead connected to the MIC input. In my installation, I chose not to use the wireless remote control and instead choose all of the functions I want using the touch screen on my iPhone.
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It's powered along the signal wire, in a similar way that a TV antenna amplifier or satellite LNB is.
Unless whatever you're plugging it into is designed for this, you will need to conjure up a supply for the mic.
Something like this:
I'm not sure what voltage it expects, although 5V would likely be a good starting point.
Unless whatever you're plugging it into is designed for this, you will need to conjure up a supply for the mic.
Something like this:
I'm not sure what voltage it expects, although 5V would likely be a good starting point.
Any idea what the resistance to the power supply should be? I measure 19 ohm across the leads coming from the microphone (without any voltage applied) if that plays into matching resistors.
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Thanks for the pointer, @michaelh. I'll have to give something like that a shot.
Any idea what the resistance to the power supply should be? I measure 19 ohm across the leads coming from the microphone (without any voltage applied) if that plays into matching resistors.
Any idea what the resistance to the power supply should be? I measure 19 ohm across the leads coming from the microphone (without any voltage applied) if that plays into matching resistors.
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Thanks for the pointer, @michaelh. I'll have to give something like that a shot.
Any idea what the resistance to the power supply should be? I measure 19 ohm across the leads coming from the microphone (without any voltage applied) if that plays into matching resistors.
Any idea what the resistance to the power supply should be? I measure 19 ohm across the leads coming from the microphone (without any voltage applied) if that plays into matching resistors.
I'll try to disassemble mine this evening and take some measurements.
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motorola m8989
Hi guys,
I have recently purchased a 2001 XJ8 Soveriegn fitted with a motorola m8989.
The previous owner advised that it was working - he was using a KOGAN sim.
I'm in Australia and tried an ALDI sim card - no luck - and now an Optus sim.
All with no luck.
I've tried a master rest of the phone, searching networks and nothing.
When I turn it on it displays SEARCHING SIM 1 for ages.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks.
I have recently purchased a 2001 XJ8 Soveriegn fitted with a motorola m8989.
The previous owner advised that it was working - he was using a KOGAN sim.
I'm in Australia and tried an ALDI sim card - no luck - and now an Optus sim.
All with no luck.
I've tried a master rest of the phone, searching networks and nothing.
When I turn it on it displays SEARCHING SIM 1 for ages.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks.
Last edited by HeyCharger; 11-05-2021 at 12:35 AM.
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My 2001 X308 had the Motorola StarTAC bluetooth phone which superseded the fixed dual band M8989. I'm amazed there's networks available anywhere now for either of these.
I recall with the dual band one SIM goes in the handset and the other in the radio unit but can't remember which was 1 or 2. If the PO genuinely had it working, are you inserting SIM 1 in the right carrier?
Graham
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Old phones, we love 'em
That is ancient.
My 2001 X308 had the Motorola StarTAC bluetooth phone which superseded the fixed dual band M8989. I'm amazed there's networks available anywhere now for either of these.
I recall with the dual band one SIM goes in the handset and the other in the radio unit but can't remember which was 1 or 2. If the PO genuinely had it working, are you inserting SIM 1 in the right carrier?
Graham
My 2001 X308 had the Motorola StarTAC bluetooth phone which superseded the fixed dual band M8989. I'm amazed there's networks available anywhere now for either of these.
I recall with the dual band one SIM goes in the handset and the other in the radio unit but can't remember which was 1 or 2. If the PO genuinely had it working, are you inserting SIM 1 in the right carrier?
Graham
Speaking as a fan of lo-tech... even in 2018, in France my 2003 XK8 handset was working fine. It was a corded, not hands-free, Jaguar-labelled phone (it might have been the M8989) that took a standard-sized SIM, i.e. neither a micro SIM nor nano-SIM. The SIM slotted into the handset and the coverage was fine, I expect it was using the 2G network. Also worked fine in the UK at that time.
It was the only thing I kept after leaving the XK8 at the yard (or home for retired Jaguars) after it was totalled. You might recall the photo in David Yau's excellent calendar.
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You might be able to find a SIM that will work for the time being, but the writing is on the wall for all our old bricks. My Moto 8700 still works here.
Possibly get a SIM from a provider that uses Vodaphone's network, as Kogan appears to do. Aldi uses Telstra:
https://ausdroid.net/australian-mobi...Brisb%20...%20
...but there's no 2G in Oz since 2018:
https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/mobile_phone_frequencies
Possibly get a SIM from a provider that uses Vodaphone's network, as Kogan appears to do. Aldi uses Telstra:
https://ausdroid.net/australian-mobi...Brisb%20...%20
...but there's no 2G in Oz since 2018:
https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/mobile_phone_frequencies
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