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Originally Posted by frankc View Post
Just curious to see if your still around.
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WhiteXKR was last on the forum only a few hours ago. Best contact method will be a PM.

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If your car was pre-wired for factory Bluetooth telephone (look for yellow connector under cubby box insert), another option is the BT45-JAG audio adapter from Discount Car Stereo (Discount Car Stereo) for $160. It is not necessary to install the wireless remote control included with the kit, as all of its functions can be performed using the phone's touchscreen. In addition, you can use either the microphone included with the kit or, if you prefer, a Jaguar OEM microphone (C2P17101AMN, about $135, if not already installed).

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Originally Posted by RayR View Post
If your car was pre-wired for factory Bluetooth telephone (look for yellow connector under cubby box insert), another option is the BT45-JAG audio adapter from Discount Car Stereo (Discount Car Stereo) for $160. It is not necessary to install the wireless remote control included with the kit, as all of its functions can be performed using the phone's touchscreen. In addition, you can use either the microphone included with the kit or, if you prefer, a Jaguar OEM microphone (C2P17101AMN, about $135, if not already installed).

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Yellow Connector Indicating Pre-Wiring for Phone
its all a bit confusing. Are you saying that if I have this yellow connector, that I have the Bluetooth option installed?
 
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:50 PM
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They all have the main yellow harness connector. Only vehicles fitted with Bluetooth have anything connected to it. Here is my 2005 XK8 showing the BT link lead plugged into the harness connector:




BT equipped vehicles have the phone module behind the rear seat back:




BT was an expensive option rarely chosen by original buyers when the vehicle specification didn't already include it.

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This is incorrect. My car did not have the Bluetooth module factory installed, i.e., there was nothing connected to the yellow harness connector, nor was there a phone module behind the seat back. The BT45-JAG audio adapter performs the same functions as both of these. I also did not have a factory-installed microphone. I purchased one and installed it myself; it integrates perfectly with the BT45-JAG unit. To determine if your vehicle was pre-wired for a phone, go to the VIN Decoder on this forum & enter your VIN.

A nice "bonus" of using the BT45-JAG is that it not only gives you hands-free Bluetooth but also allows you to stream any audio (including, e.g., iTunes, Pandora, Google Maps, Sirius XM) through the car's stereo speakers.

Full details on my installation are here: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ay-how-200834/

Post #11 in the thread provides the update on how I installed the BT45-JAG.
 

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Originally Posted by RayR View Post
This is incorrect. My car did not have the Bluetooth module factory installed, i.e., there was nothing connected to the yellow harness connector, nor was there a phone module behind the seat back. The BT45-JAG audio adapter performs the same functions as both of these. I also did not have a factory-installed microphone. I purchased one and installed it myself; it integrates perfectly with the BT45-JAG unit. To determine if your vehicle was pre-wired for a phone, go to the VIN Decoder on this forum & enter your VIN.

A nice "bonus" of using the BT45-JAG is that it not only gives you hands-free Bluetooth but also allows you to stream any audio (including, e.g., iTunes, Pandora, Google Maps, Sirius XM) through the car's stereo speakers.

Full details on my installation are here: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ay-how-200834/

Post #11 in the thread provides the update on how I installed the BT45-JAG.
Just to clarify, the BT45-JAG unit is an aftermarket bluetooth add-on. Graham's appears to be a genuine Jaguar OEM BT kit.

Pretty much any handsfree Bluetooth kit can be added to the X100 via that yellow connector and audio streaming can be added by splicing into the CD player audio leads, or connecting via the tape deck (there are various mods documented on the forum to hardwire this).

The BT45-JAG unit is plug and play, but doesn't really do anything special, other than being an easy install.
 

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Correct. Sometimes easy is nice, though, especially for those who aren't comfortable with cutting & splicing! :-)
 
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Originally Posted by dibbit View Post
..... Graham's appears to be a genuine Jaguar OEM BT kit. .....
YES - the photos in post #64 are my 2005 XK8 Coupe 4.2-S Final Series which was factory fitted with Jaguar BT.

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Huh, Dibbit's page for the BT45-JAG shows a simple harness to go from the factory install microphone to a 3.5mm plug.

Does anyone know how that wiring works?

I've never been able to get my microphone to register by just plugging its two wires into an input jack. Even hooking an oscilloscope to the leads doesn't show any reaction to sound.

Taking the microphone apart, it has Motorola markings and a bunch of active components (capacitors and opamps) built into it, so I assume I need to apply voltage somehow.

If anyone has any leads on how to wire the microphone into a standard stereo mic in port, I'd appreciate the pointer.

(Someday I'll make a top level post about this, but since it's coming up here...)
 

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It's powered along the signal wire, in a similar way that a TV antenna amplifier or satellite LNB is.

Unless whatever you're plugging it into is designed for this, you will need to conjure up a supply for the mic.
Something like this:



I'm not sure what voltage it expects, although 5V would likely be a good starting point.
 
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The BT45-JAG consists of seven parts: (1) an audio adapter module, (3) a 12-foot audio cable, (3) a short 6-pin to 3.5mm stereo mini-plug adapter, (4) the BT45-JAG module, (5) a wiring harness, (6) a microphone, and (7) a wireless remote control. The audio adapter is installed between the CD changer and the power amplifier; the 12-foot audio cable runs from it to the center cubby box where the multi-pin phone plug is located. The adapter cable connects the audio cable to the BT45-JAG module. The wiring harness connects to the multi-pin phone plug; it terminates in another multi-pin plug and a 3.5mm stereo mini-plug. The plug also connects to the BT45-JAG; if you have a factory microphone installed, the 3.5mm mini-plug connects to the BT45-JAG's "MIC" input. If you choose to use the microphone included in the kit, its 3.5mm mini-plug is instead connected to the MIC input. In my installation, I chose not to use the wireless remote control and instead choose all of the functions I want using the touch screen on my iPhone.

 
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Originally Posted by michaelh View Post
It's powered along the signal wire, in a similar way that a TV antenna amplifier or satellite LNB is.

Unless whatever you're plugging it into is designed for this, you will need to conjure up a supply for the mic.
Something like this:



I'm not sure what voltage it expects, although 5V would likely be a good starting point.
Thanks for the pointer, michaelh. I'll have to give something like that a shot.

Any idea what the resistance to the power supply should be? I measure 19 ohm across the leads coming from the microphone (without any voltage applied) if that plays into matching resistors.
 
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Originally Posted by volkris View Post
Thanks for the pointer, michaelh. I'll have to give something like that a shot.

Any idea what the resistance to the power supply should be? I measure 19 ohm across the leads coming from the microphone (without any voltage applied) if that plays into matching resistors.
When I did mine, I removed the factory microphone, soldered the Motorola one that came with the bluetooth kit in its place and used the original factory mic wires to connect it to the new bluetooth module in the armrest. It works fine, although I can't say what, if any, difference in quality there is between the OEM mic and the one that came in the Motorola T605 bluetooth kit. I mainly wanted mine for streaming music from my phone, rather than handsfree phone calls.

 
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Originally Posted by volkris View Post
Thanks for the pointer, michaelh. I'll have to give something like that a shot.

Any idea what the resistance to the power supply should be? I measure 19 ohm across the leads coming from the microphone (without any voltage applied) if that plays into matching resistors.
That's lower than I would expect. To confirm - you have the OEM microphone?

I'll try to disassemble mine this evening and take some measurements.


 
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I'm going to take some pictures and make a top level post to follow up on this without further hijacking this thread.

Really, I figured nobody would be interested in the factory microphone, especially because I didn't see it in searches of the history, so I never brought it up before.
 
 
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