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Old Sep 28, 2024 | 09:50 PM
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I am doing a replacement of the bushes and ball joints on the front suspension of my 2001 XKR.
I bought lower arm bushes from Rockauto and they have VAICO V410028 list as front lower forward bushes.
However, when I look at the box that arrived, it has MNE1360BB below the Vaico number and this is the Jaguar part number for the front lower rearward bushes.

Are they okay to use in the front lower forward location, or should I ask for them to be replaced with MNE1360CA? What's the difference between the parts?

The URO parts info for both shows no difference in specs listed.


 
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cooldood
I am doing a replacement of the bushes and ball joints on the front suspension of my 2001 XKR.
I bought lower arm bushes from Rockauto and they have VAICO V410028 list as front lower forward bushes.
However, when I look at the box that arrived, it has MNE1360BB below the Vaico number and this is the Jaguar part number for the front lower rearward bushes.

Are they okay to use in the front lower forward location, or should I ask for them to be replaced with MNE1360CA? What's the difference between the parts?

The URO parts info for both shows no difference in specs listed.
The basic dimensions of these bushes are the same but their position can NOT be swapped. The offset of each is different. If they are transposed the required caster setting will be unobtainable.

 

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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 11:05 AM
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Thank you Baxtor, I figured it would be something like that.
In your picture, which one is which? That'll let me confirm which one I received.

The next question is how to get the new one installed without damaging it?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 12:24 PM
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TSB we got a few decades ago.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 02:27 PM
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Thanks for the TSB.
I have ordered two of MNE1360CA and will have to argue with Rockauto about who pays the return postage for the VAICO V410028.
I will await the arrival of the new ones, before doing the return, so I can compare the differences.

For the install, the rented ball joint kit I have from Autozone has a tube that looks like it will fit over the rubber of the bush, on the MNE1360BB I have, and catch the metal flange. I will freeze the bush overnight before lubing with silicone paste and try light pressure in the press. If it does not move easily, a rethink might be needed.

It looks like the special tool mentioned in the TSB is just a mirror image of the bush top parts and would help to spread the load across as much of the bush as possible, including the rubber parts?
 

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Originally Posted by cooldood
Thank you Baxtor, I figured it would be something like that.
In your picture, which one is which? That'll let me confirm which one I received.

The next question is how to get the new one installed without damaging it?
sorry l didn't note which was which, here is a better pic.

 
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Old Sep 29, 2024 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cooldood;2789587
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It looks like the special tool mentioned in the TSB is just a mirror image of the bush top parts and would help to spread the load across as much of the bush as possible, including the rubber parts?[/color]
Correct. The tool 204-279 also has a center peg to keep the tool located in the bush.

A correct diameter tube or socket will work fine without the special tool.

More TSB info.
 
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Thank you both, that does add some clarity.

I think I have a plan, and await the arrival of the new parts with antici
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Old Sep 30, 2024 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cooldood
It looks like the special tool mentioned in the TSB is just a mirror image of the bush top parts and would help to spread the load across as much of the bush as possible, including the rubber parts?
They are.
FWIW, here's a picture (links to JLR no longer valid):
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...2/#post2358714
 
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Old Oct 3, 2024 | 05:23 PM
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New parts arrived today. There is a clear difference in offset when you have them both together. The BBs I already had did seem to protrude a little, but the CA is significantly more proud.
I laid out the issue clearly in an email, with part numbers, and Rockauto agreed and sent a prepaid postage pdf via return email, so quite happy with that outcome, although it has of course cost me a week of lost time.

Time to stick them in ziplock bags and into the freezer in preparation for fitting this weekend.
 
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