Wiseguy!

Hoist one for me!

 

Unfair! But have one for us.

 

I called him a wiseguy.........

Look where he is, and look where I am. You tell me who's got it on the ball! Tain't me!!

 

Thanks to our mysterious literature 'benefactor', there is some good information included in these files. I've got lots of reading time planned for that Manual.

• IDS-SDD-JLR Manual (February 2012)
• IDS Maintenance & Troubleshooting Guide v2.2
• IDS to SDD Transistion Guide v2.5 (sorry Bob, no "WDS to SDD Transition support )
• SDD New Features
• SDD Newsletters (includes hints and tips)
  • July 2011
  • August 2011
  • October 2011
  • November 2011
  • December 2011
  • January 2012
  • March 2012
  • May 2012
  • September 2012

• IDS Introduction for New Users
• IDS Maintenance Guide v1.3
• IDS Training (this is the biggee)
• IDS Guide Release

Enjoy all!

 

I should add a note on the subject of Java, 'cause I just had an incident.

If a flag comes up about a Java Update being available, you should heed that notification and get the update. When Java detects an update, it seems to be in some sort of limbo and SDD usually has issues. I have learned that over time. Likewise, if I'm in the middle of something with SDD when the Java flag comes up, I shut down SDD like I'm done, and get the update. Then I go back into SDD and proceed with whatever I was doing.

I've just learned to make sure Java is happy before I do anything with SDD. It relies heavily on Java.

Cheers,

 

I tried the Win7 32bit version, and although SDD works, the legacy software abends, never found the issue, so gave up.

Are you sure the legacy software also works in Win 7 32bit?

 

Give me more.......

Using the Mongoose, I assume. What IDS/SDD version? Is it Win 7 orig, SP1? If you are wanting legacy, what car are you interrogating?

 

I tried it with IDS version 129, win7 32 sp1 and the Mongoose on my car. So when you enter the Vin, SDD will pass you thru to the old tabman. Then you need to confirm the model, and iirc you get another screen where you need to click on ok, and then it crashed.

 

My main SDD machine is a Toughbook w/WinXP Pro SP2, I know it communicates with the 2000 models OK using the Mongoose. I keep a Win7 drive for my main laptop so I can swap it to an SDD machine if I need to when away from the shop. As soon as I have an opportunity I'll verify the MongoosePro handles IDS Ok on the AJ27's.

I guess the next question we have to answer is whether you have a clone Mongoose or the real deal. Both of mine are the real items, almost $600 apiece.

Cheers,

 

Although its a clone mongoose (I have tried it with a VCM as well), I don't think it is related to the h/w tool, as all is working fine in my winXP sp3 vm (virtual machine), so both the mongoose as the vcm with tabman.

If you think it should work, I can setup a new Win7 32b vm again, and will give it another try.

 

Well, I really do think it should work. I just don't use the Win7 setup often enough to say mine does for sure. My XP machine works very well with IDS and the Mongoose.

I hate to see you go to the trouble of loading up another drive; but on the other hand, if the clone device is part of the problem, I guess that would be good to know.

Good luck!

 

Ok, thanks, will give it another try and report back.

 

Does SDD support S-Types or is it just IDS that does?

Any model years / etc that get different support?

Any other comments, please... I don't really know what to ask!

Oh, and is there an IDS manual? (Hopefully showing all the icon meanings and much more.)

 

Yes, SDD supports S-types. I'm not sure I understand the question about 'different support'. SDD's front end is designed so that if it does not have any Symptom Mapping for the VIN it read or you input, it hands off to Legacy IDS and launches it.

Of course, everything works with a VCM, with the MongoosePro JLR for instance, diagnostics, code reading and datalogging work, but you can't flash program modules on the older cars. I think I said earlier, that's why DrewTech indicates it doesn't 'support' the first generation S-Type. It won't flash, but it works for most other things.

Oh, PM on the way shortly.

Cheers,

 

I've added some IDS specific documents to the list above in post #164

 

I suppose I meant should SDD have Symptom Maps for S-Types? Some of them? All of them? None of them? Or would it just straightaway hand over to Legacy IDS for all S-Types? If it wouldn't normally hand straight over to IDS, what would (abnormally) make it do so?

 

I gotta say thanks to all you guys for all of this info BUT I am a german car tech and all of the variables are confusing the heck outta me :-)

I have Jags from '89(xjs), 99(xj8), 03(XKR), and 09(supercharged xf). What I need to do is diag and re-flash/updates. I do not mind spending 500-800. I have seen used rotunda's, knock-off new metal rotunda's, mongoose, and mongoose knock-offs. Can anyone give me a recomendation? I have a few laptops of variable vintage that can be used for this.
The software/licensing/ect is total alphabet soup. Is there a quick and easy answer for somebody ready to spend under a grand usd?

My plan was to order from mongoose. My understanding is that I will have diag on all 99 and up cars but no flash abilities. Is this correct?

 

btw- I will start reading all the info in the waterboy's links as soon as I get home on monday, but I would really like to order the tool now and have the stuff here to work with while I was going through the links. And I need to fix my darn car asap, daily driving my tow vehicle is eating me alive.

 

The MongoosePro JLR has proven to be a pretty good tool for me. I use one daily. The true item is only $580, then you need your software. I don't think I've run across anyone yet with a clone that hasn't has some sort of issue crop up. It's either some flaky operation or outright failure. I guess some have ultimately gotten satisfaction once it was replaced.

As far as flash programming.......I had some comments on that a while back. Reflashing just isn't the first thing you should consider. Here's the post:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...67/#post598451

Cheers,

 

thank you...info from a guy using em everyday was exactly what I was hoping for.