I bought 2000 S type 2 months ago and it always had dsc system fault message on the cluster. I never had it checked but today when I was driving I lost my braking power and my brake pedal went all the way in. I stopped the car immediately and restarted the car and pumped the brakes.

Not sure what happened. I know this car was sitting for a while when I bought it. Not sure what is causing the light to come on. I have spent way too much money on this car and it is my first jag. Any help would be appreciated

 

Sorry you have spent "way" to much money on your Jaguar, may be you should have researched the marquee first.


Anyways, any other faults? It very well be a failing battery. Many, many threads about it. Grab a cup or mug of your favorite bevie and do some reading to save yourself a lot of money.

 

Hello lincolnlsv8 . . . and greetings from a Jaguar enthusiast in Australia.

I trust you don't find any offense in what I offer, for none is intended. But . . . given that you have purchased a high performance vehicle that has already racked up quite a few years and an uncertain history . . . you acknowledge you have several issues that are proving expensive.

Just owning and maintaining this vehicle demands that maintenance and service be carried out regularly and without compromise. When you then add the costs of making good all the worn parts now exposed through poor service, total outlay can easily exceed the purchase price.

Perhaps, in this light, you may be better selling out and looking for a cheaper, more modern runabout that you can afford to maintain as required?

Best wishes.
Ken

 

+1 . . . Pipped at the "post" by Rick with his customary excellent advice.

Regards,

Ken

 

Oh please Ken......What the hell do I know!

 

Nope Rick . . . ya can't fool me. I know the value of your contributions . . . and it is a privilege to see you sharing willingly what has taken many years of painstaking effort. I have been there too . . . I know.

Ken

 

One thing it may be is a failing vacuum hose, maybe to the brake booster.

DIY is essential to keep costs down on an old car.

 

I also come from the Lincoln LS side and currently have a 2003 LS V8 sport and a 2005 STR. Similar but different cars if that makes sense?

Your DSC problem and brakes are not related. I would focus on the brakes right now.

Have you changed the fluid or inspected the condition of the brakes?

You did not post but we need all your car information. Do you have the V8?
Have you read about the timing tensioners?
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It is totally irresponsible to be operating that vehicle with a KNOWN safety issue. In some states you would find yourself facing felony manslaughter charges if you had an accident with fatality due to failed brakes despite the vehicle warning that you disregarded but drove anyway. Get the vehicle repaired!

 

Big +1 - DSC and brakes not related - investigate and repair immediately...

 

The brake pedal going to the floor is an indication that the system is out if fluid because if a leak or a bad brake master cylinder.

As for the DSC it continually monitors and checks all the sensors and actuators used to improve the stability of the vehicle.

Link to read additional info on the braking system http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Trai...l-11-26-02.pdf
Page 64

I think the DSC was telling you something!

 

Have you opened the hood to look at fluid levels or underneath for signs of a leak?

 

So, basically, you're knowingly driving a vehicle that has given you a DSC fault (dynamic stability control)?


I say that you're negligent by not repairing.

 

Ouch!

 

Linconlsv8 let us know what you find.

 

Thank you all for replying. I don't mind doing the repairs myself just been busy with work lately. the main thing this car cost me was to replace cluster when odometer reading went out, cost me 900 bucks for that from dealer.


anyway regarding the brake issue I looked at brake fluid reservoir, it looks full to me but looks dirty fluid. I have noticed I have to press the brake harder to change gears on transmission. I didn't see any obvious fluid leak around the brake lines but will inspect


I was thinking to bleed the brakes and replace brake fluid and see if that helps.


I will also look at all of the abs sensors for DSC system fault. Anyone can help me where are they located?


How can I find if battery is going toast? it cranks fine without any issues.


I am not gonna drive the vehicle until I get the brake stuff sorted out.

 

I'm glad to hear that you have decided to repair the vehicle until you try driving it again.


Once, I would not let a customer take his vehicle out of my shop until we replaced the wheel. There was a 5-inch section of the edge around the tire bead missing from hitting something. He got irritated and I told him to call the police, but the vehicle was not being driven off the property.


He calmed down and next day we were able to find a replacement wheel, installed and all for $100. He thanked me profusely for not letting him leave with something that could have cause an accident or loss of life.


I've learned to say NO and to call out on safety issues that are glaring people in the face.


On the way back to Atlanta this weekend, I noticed a car on the left shoulder coming into the metro area whose RH tire was turned at a 90-degree angle, likely from tie rod failure. I would guess that the car drove sloppy for a long time and someone pointed it out, yet the car was continued to be driven.


I am a fan of mandatory safety inspections to prevent this type of preventable and foreseeable kind of thing harm people.

 

If the brake pedal went to the floor and you have a fair amount of fluid then you might have a failing brake master cylinder.

As for the DSC I would focus on the brake problem first they may be related.

You can have the battery tested at any AutoZone, Advanced Auto and Sears and you can have them test it in the car.

 

I see you've been a member for over four years so your interest in Jaguar, and the wish to own one, can't have been a sudden impulse.

Values of used Jaguars drop like a stone largely because they cost more to maintain as they get older. The best way to mitigate this is to learn how to do much of the repairs and maintenance yourself. One piece of advice I would give is never to ignore faults - they rarely go away and usually only get worse.

1. the BRAKES are a fundamental vehicle safety system - they stop it!

2. DSC is a 'driver aid' - it prevents wheelspin by automatically reducing the power output from the engine and applying braking to individual wheels.

You can be relaxed about (2) if you wish and the continuous warning light doesn't drive you nuts but (1) should be investigated immediately.

Graham