Pats code 22
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Pats code 22
Hey guys. Previously I mention in an update in other thread that suddenly the car Stopped starting, no crank, etc. Had checked the key and the chip in the key is working, fuse all working on the passenger side box, non burn. I thought that Probably the ignition key barrel switch security transceiver is not working. But as the light from the PATS started flashing I watch for the code. From what I can see is code #22, but can't find what this means or if there's something to change, damaged, disconnect or blown out.
Also, the Horn stopped working at the same time, and got this two messages displayed on the cluster "Failed side repeaters" and "failed front indicators". Don't know if this is related to the first problem or is something different that I need to check.
Thanks for any help!!
Also, the Horn stopped working at the same time, and got this two messages displayed on the cluster "Failed side repeaters" and "failed front indicators". Don't know if this is related to the first problem or is something different that I need to check.
Thanks for any help!!
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For what I know of the PATS system if the little security light flashes rapidly at you. You're screwed. Take it to a dealer, have it towed etc. as The security system has locked up for some reason. Even though it is a Ford system, It is a Jaguar built car, and will Have Jaguar Proprietary software. Same thing with my Sons Mazda 5. Had to put it on a trailer and take it to a "Mazda Dealer" to have security system unlocked and a new key programmed to it. As my Local Ford dealer couldn't do it, as it was a Mazda Built Vehicle! It will have to be done by a dealer, or someone who has access to their brands software. Sorry I just went through this last week with the Mazda. PATS (Passive Anti Theft System) Sucks!!!!! I've dealt with this system twice, and I got screwed hard both times. Wish I had better news for you.
Jack
Jack
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Hi Eric - Glad to see someone from the Dominican Republic with a Jaguar!
You will need to use the Jaguar diagnostic software (WDS) to work on this. If you don't have it then yes as posted above a dealer will be your only other option.
But code 22 looks like it happens when the instrument cluster has been replaced? Have you done any work to that?
See if the attached will help even though it's for the 2003 and up S Type? It might help your dealer too.
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You will need to use the Jaguar diagnostic software (WDS) to work on this. If you don't have it then yes as posted above a dealer will be your only other option.
But code 22 looks like it happens when the instrument cluster has been replaced? Have you done any work to that?
See if the attached will help even though it's for the 2003 and up S Type? It might help your dealer too.
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www.jagrepair.com/images/IntroToJaguar/INTR Manual-10-3-02.pdf
at about paage 230 shows PATS 22 for the early cars as
PCM ID not in instrument pack non-volatile memory
(There's also an SRS code 22 in case it's not PATS that's flashing.)
at about paage 230 shows PATS 22 for the early cars as
PCM ID not in instrument pack non-volatile memory
(There's also an SRS code 22 in case it's not PATS that's flashing.)
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Hi Eric - Glad to see someone from the Dominican Republic with a Jaguar!
You will need to use the Jaguar diagnostic software (WDS) to work on this. If you don't have it then yes as posted above a dealer will be your only other option.
But code 22 looks like it happens when the instrument cluster has been replaced? Have you done any work to that?
See if the attached will help even though it's for the 2003 and up S Type? It might help your dealer too
You will need to use the Jaguar diagnostic software (WDS) to work on this. If you don't have it then yes as posted above a dealer will be your only other option.
But code 22 looks like it happens when the instrument cluster has been replaced? Have you done any work to that?
See if the attached will help even though it's for the 2003 and up S Type? It might help your dealer too
Can I install that software on a laptop? If so, what do I need to run it on the car?
I haven't done any work on the instrument cluster, and never heard or remember my dad changing or working on the instrument cluster either.
www.jagrepair.com/images/IntroToJaguar/INTR Manual-10-3-02.pdf
at about paage 230 shows PATS 22 for the early cars as
PCM ID not in instrument pack non-volatile memory
(There's also an SRS code 22 in case it's not PATS that's flashing.)
at about paage 230 shows PATS 22 for the early cars as
PCM ID not in instrument pack non-volatile memory
(There's also an SRS code 22 in case it's not PATS that's flashing.)
Reprogramming will solve the problem?
I will, Don't worry.
Have you done anything to the instrument cluster? The cluster needs VIN-specific programming, but once done, this magic should last forever. Such programming is not something that's likely to inadvertently be erased. Makes me wonder if the cluster was replaced or it was disassembled for some reason.
Last edited by e_brugal; 04-01-2021 at 08:13 PM.
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I have seen 6 month old cars coming back into the dealer for 'no-start' after the family got back from vacation to find chewed wiring. (RAT DAMAGE)
They wanted Jaguar to pay for the repairs because the car was still in new car factory warranty.
Warranty refused so the home owner policy took over I guess?
Check for damaged wiring as a possible cause for your problems?
They wanted Jaguar to pay for the repairs because the car was still in new car factory warranty.
Warranty refused so the home owner policy took over I guess?
Check for damaged wiring as a possible cause for your problems?
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I have seen 6 month old cars coming back into the dealer for 'no-start' after the family got back from vacation to find chewed wiring. (RAT DAMAGE)
They wanted Jaguar to pay for the repairs because the car was still in new car factory warranty.
Warranty refused so the home owner policy took over I guess?
Check for damaged wiring as a possible cause for your problems?
They wanted Jaguar to pay for the repairs because the car was still in new car factory warranty.
Warranty refused so the home owner policy took over I guess?
Check for damaged wiring as a possible cause for your problems?
Last edited by e_brugal; 04-02-2021 at 07:01 AM.
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Hi, this is a recording of the flashing PATS light, if someone can watch it and see if it's another code and not code 22.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ecfcq...91959.mp4/file
Thanks
https://www.mediafire.com/file/ecfcq...91959.mp4/file
Thanks
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I hope too, I'm anxious to See this car finish and take my mom for a ride in the car like my dad used to, I know she will be very happy to see the car running again. I haven't told her the stage I'm in with the car.
Tomorrow the looksmith will install a new transceiver.
Last edited by e_brugal; 04-15-2021 at 05:24 AM.
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Any updates? The suspense is killing me.
I've been trying to locate an older thread that may help, but I can't find it. The little electronic chip in the head of the key had fallen out, a little dookickey maybe the size of a small bean. If missing, you'd have a small hole open in the head of the key. I don't remember all of the exact details, so maybe the symptoms were different and didn't generate a code 22. And hopefully your locksmith would have checked for that right off the bat, but who knows.
In this picture, the pen is pointing to the location of the magic chip:
I've been trying to locate an older thread that may help, but I can't find it. The little electronic chip in the head of the key had fallen out, a little dookickey maybe the size of a small bean. If missing, you'd have a small hole open in the head of the key. I don't remember all of the exact details, so maybe the symptoms were different and didn't generate a code 22. And hopefully your locksmith would have checked for that right off the bat, but who knows.
In this picture, the pen is pointing to the location of the magic chip:
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lol I know how you feel. Yesterday the locksmith came to change the transceiver but he took the wrong one from his desk . I went out from the city for the weekend. So, will restart on Monday.
No open hole, chip is inside and working, 1st thing the locksmith checked
I've been trying to locate an older thread that may help, but I can't find it. The little electronic chip in the head of the key had fallen out, a little dookickey maybe the size of a small bean. If missing, you'd have a small hole open in the head of the key. I don't remember all of the exact details, so maybe the symptoms were different and didn't generate a code 22. And hopefully your locksmith would have checked for that right off the bat, but who knows.
In this picture, the pen is pointing to the location of the magic chip:
In this picture, the pen is pointing to the location of the magic chip:
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Not so good update: Finally got the locksmith to work in the car with the new transceiver, bad news is that this transceiver isn't reading the key either, so, back to 0.
Tomorrow will come the mechanic to see if it's an electrical problem, if the transceiver is getting electricity, or what the heck is happening. The only thing I'm sure is that all the fuses are working.
I hope that I don't have to change the cluster
Tomorrow will come the mechanic to see if it's an electrical problem, if the transceiver is getting electricity, or what the heck is happening. The only thing I'm sure is that all the fuses are working.
I hope that I don't have to change the cluster