I just installed a used ABS module/pump in my S-type and I'm getting all kinds of fun CAN errors, which I can only assume are based on the used unit not being programmed to the car. It appears as though I can get a dealer level scan tool from eBay for about 150 bucks shipped, but I had a few questions for anyone who can help first.

1) Has anyone used these tools with any success, and can they be used to program a used ABS module to the car.

2) Which one do I need to get for a 2005 S-type 3.0L, I'm seeing this one (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Newest-V143...IAAOSwkvFac7qN) which is advertised by some as 2005+ Jaguars but says it doesn't work on the S-type, and this one (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EXPRESS-DA-...UAAOSw9r1V8kOO) which says it does work with S-type but doesn't mention specific years.

I'm a bit clumsy around computers and programming like this, and I'm sorely missing the age of just turning wrenches to fix things lol, so any help here would be very appreciated. And if something is a better option that I haven't linked here, that would be appreciated too, as long as it's not super expensive. Thanks!

 

I don't think they need programming to the car. They do need to be exactly the same kind, though.

Does the replacement have exactly the same numbers on it?

Anyone know more about what an owner can get away with?

 

I swapped my abs/dsc unit out a few month's back wilst searching for a can bus fault .
I only plugged it in , not plumed for braking .
So I could not calabrate it .
Sure my replacement was the correct part no# !
I can say for sure it did not need programming to function the can bus .
As there was communication to IDS.
But I'd did have an ABS light on after fitting . So there was a code .
I was satisfied that it was not my issue and swapped the plug back to the origenal pump.
And re calabrated the factory unit .
it does require calabrateing to the peddal travel via IDS .

 

Which pedal? (It has no inputs from a pedal...)

 

IDS request was to press the brake pedal firmly and hold
then cycle the key in a specific manor then release the brake .

so i assume a pressure sensor with in the abs unit was calibrated while being configured .
sensed by the module ?

one thing is for sure , a part of the procedure was to hold the brake pedal down.

it also says in ids, once you click to configure ABS,
that programming a module from this menu should only be used when a module has been replaced
and so on .




i re configured my old one and it still works .
but i read it as if you replace any of the modules in this list then you must at least try to configure it before use .

 

It's not the pedal, then, but rather something like hydraulic pressure.

You're the first over the last 9 or so years who did that / needed to do that (not sure which of those two). Everyone else appears to have just made a change, driven the car (above a slowish speed variously said to be 4 or 14mph), and the module figures out all is now OK. I wonder why that did not work for you.

 

First in 9 years that you know of may be .
It was an un nessersery module swap . In a last ditch desperate effort to trace a can bus fault . The wireing tested fine through out . Though I have no osiloscope or VMM to test live data .from modules . Made it a parts swapping frenzy .
And spare modules are cheep exept the one I needed in the end .
There was no communication between ECM&TCM to ABS I also swapped the ECM and cluster also . Although I was trying hard to prove it was not the TCM at fault
It turned out to be a faulty TCM fixed with a second hand TCM .
There fore I was un able to drive it any way . So configuring seemed the safer option .

 

It's good that others have the chance to see your experience and what worked for you.

(But ideally we'd understand why...)

 

Just to confirm, I can use the first thing I linked there, the VCM IDS, on an '05 S-type without issue? I'm trying to figure out which one of these things will work with the car. I did check the part numbers, they're all identical across the board (both pump and module are the same part number exactly), and I've tried 2 different replacements (all identical part #s) and get the same issues each time.

 

Some reading for you.

Jaguar 32-bit ECM recovery procedure
2002-on X-TYPE, 2003-on S-TYPE, 2004-on XJ, 2003-on XK
In the event communications to the Engine Control Module (ECM) cannot be established or an error occurred
during programming and the ECM will no longer communicate with the WDS,
DO NOT replace the ECM.

Perform the ECM rectification procedure that will 'unlock' the ECM and will restore communications. Before continuing, have WDS in the docking station, the docking station plugged in and a battery charger on the car's battery.

1. Start programming the ECM as an existing module using the WDS.
During the reprogramming process, the screen in figure 1 will appear.

2. Disconnect the negative battery lead and press 'YES" on the
WDS screen as shown in figure 2.

3. Reconnect and tighten negative battery terminal and then press
'YES' to continue.

4. NOTE: Be aware of the time requirements of this portion of the
procedure. A helper may be required to perform correctly. Press
tick on WDS, wait 2 seconds, then switch ignition on. WDS will
recover and then reprogram ECM.

bob

 

as far as i know VCM2 is not compatible . i know its definitely not comatible with the 32bit ecm .
maybe you have the later ecm ? i think your vin will be required to determine . i would not know if
it is compatible with the later ECM . hopefully some one can help with that .

 

Bump, can anyone help with which interface I'd need to program an ABS Module?

 

it was confirmed to me that VCM2 is not compatible with any s type .thanks cambo!
you need the latest possible version of IDS/SSD and a rotunda VCM 1.
to program or configure any of your modules .
these vcm's are rare . and nothing else is safe enough to even risk trying !
especially not the clone BS blue rotunda VCM2 in your link. again thanks cambo!
there were no genuine blue VCM's there are links on here showing the difference ,
both internally and externally between fake and genuine.
but truthfully . you can not program the ABS/DSC module.
only configure it .
if your can bus is faulty within any one of your modules . it will need an internal repair not reprogramming .
IF you plug your old module back in and can bus is restored .
its obvious you need another replacement unit .