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Old Jul 17, 2019 | 02:24 AM
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Don't freak over a squeak. If it works and doesn't leak, it's fine, just turn up the music.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2019 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by wydopnthrtl
Update 7/16/19 I may have stumbled across something...

Very shortly after the 4/20 flush we started to notice the squeak again. Maybe 2-3 days afterward. It was very subtle though. Had to turn the radio off and AC down to hear it. I also noticed the steering was slightly jittery. My wife didn't notice but I did. We let it go for about 1500 miles and it didn't get any worse. It was inconsistent though. Sometimes no squeak and sometimes a little noise.

There were two things that I did differently that time and it's had me wondering if...
1. The fluid was different (I used up the one pictured above and so I bought the "same" stuff but it was only available in a 1 gallon bottle)?
2. I didn't purge the air out? (I just filled and dropped the car because I was in a hurry)

Yesterday, I had the car up on stands so I decided to flush it again and this time do exactly what I did the first time but using the new fluid. That was to drain, fill 1/2 way, then turn the wheel from lock to lock about 10 times (wheels off the ground). I did that and noticed the fluid level dropped where as the 4/20 flush didn't. I also noticed there was jitter and some resistance at the same time when turning the steering wheel about 270-360 degrees. Then after about 5 complete Left/Right turns there was a decrease in resistance and it started to get smooth.

Only driven about 30 miles so far and its back to no squeak and smooth turning (like a new car). Going on a trip next weekend and I'll watch it closely.

btw..
- I'm thinking I had not purged all the air out.
- The fluid looked slightly darker than new
- Ambient temps now are in the low 90s. (The squeak doesn't seem to be air temp dependent)
Get some of the Jaguar additive and it fixes this.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2019 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Staatsof
Get some of the Jaguar additive and it fixes this.
As I noted in the 1st post I have some and believe in flushing fluids *before* adding friction modifiers.
What I'm attempting to see here is if simply changing the fluid (properly) will "fix" the condition. And so far.. if the air is purged.. it looks like it does indeed work.
(Since I changed it two days ago I've drove about 100 miles / five stop-starts and its not squeaking. No jitter / stiction is observable)
 

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Old Jul 17, 2019 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wydopnthrtl
What I'm attempting to see here is if simply changing the fluid (properly) will "fix" the condition. And so far.. if the air is purged.. it looks like it does indeed work.
Bearing in mind how young the cars were when Jaguar had got as far as figuring out the modifier fluid, making it available and issuing a TSB, that's a bit hopeful!

It's rather likely Jaguar would have just said to change the PAS oil if that worked.

Of course, it could still work for your specific car.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 05:11 AM
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100F yesterday and I've driven about 200 miles since 7/16. No squeak and its smooth feeling.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 09:59 AM
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About 2k miles since last flush. Several roads trips and local summer heat type of driving. Working exactly the same and fluid looks the same (new) since the re-flush.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 06:21 PM
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UPDATE: 20 months and 9k miles. No judder or squeaks
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 08:05 PM
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Thank you for the update, very interesting thread. I have the same squeaking issue but mine is a L24xxx. I'll try to perform the tsb method just for fun.
 
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