2017 vs. 2018 XF
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2017 vs. 2018 XF
Since our beautiful maroon 2017 Prestige XF was totalled in a wreck a month ago, we've been looking for a replacement. I'm not impressed with the 2018 XF's at all. First, the Firenze Red is boring - it doesn't have the metallic component at all - just a boring red. Second, the defacto engine seems to be the turbo 4 cyl. A 4 cyl XF? How emasculating! You want a supercharged 6 cyl? Get ready to lay down a LOT of cash. I'm very disappointed with the 2018 XF's and am now considering a beemer or a Lincoln instead. Very disappointing.
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No doubt you'll be very impressed by the 4 cylinder BMW models...or you could try the 4 cylinder Mercedes...all manufacturers are moving to smaller but potent engines. The Jaguar engine has close to 300 hp in some applications (the F-Type, for example) - these are not the four cylinders of the past. That said, I would pay the premium for the V6 in the XF.
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No doubt you'll be very impressed by the 4 cylinder BMW models...or you could try the 4 cylinder Mercedes...all manufacturers are moving to smaller but potent engines. The Jaguar engine has close to 300 hp in some applications (the F-Type, for example) - these are not the four cylinders of the past. That said, I would pay the premium for the V6 in the XF.
+1 The wife just bought a 4 pot gas dual turbo BMW. Smooth at idle, quiet, and accelerates well once you get into the mid and higher rpm range. Emphasis on mid and higher. With the new 8+ speed transmissions torque isn't as important as it use to be. No comparison to the SC6 though.
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Clearly, my bit of light sarcasm did not come through (sarcasm being the lowest form of humour). My point is not that the BMW or Mercedes or...4 cylinder engines are good- of course they are- that is beside the point. The point is the OP's complaint that Jaguar is installing 4 cylinder engines now in its base models - and that in some way this is "emasculating", with the implication that an Ingenium 4 cylinder Jaguar is below the offerings of a "beemer or a Lincoln" or that Jaguar is out of step with its rivals. Nothing could be further from the truth. But if you want a supercharged V6 or even a V8, Jaguar has them - they just cost more (and this too is industry-standard behaviour).
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I too hate the shrinking engines in the new lineup. Grateful for my SC V6 in my 2016 r-sport. I think I might go XE next time, if the options are the same because then I can get the S with everything I want for mid $50's USD, whereas the same engine/trim level in the XF clocks in at around $72K
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Since our beautiful maroon 2017 Prestige XF was totalled in a wreck a month ago, we've been looking for a replacement. I'm not impressed with the 2018 XF's at all. First, the Firenze Red is boring - it doesn't have the metallic component at all - just a boring red. Second, the defacto engine seems to be the turbo 4 cyl. A 4 cyl XF? How emasculating! You want a supercharged 6 cyl? Get ready to lay down a LOT of cash. I'm very disappointed with the 2018 XF's and am now considering a beemer or a Lincoln instead. Very disappointing.
The auto industry is moving to 4 cylinders for CAFE in the US and generally economy reasons overall. I don't think moving to BMW or Lincoln will make things better. I have had BMWs and MBs and they caused me quite a lot of misery. My 2016 XF Prestige has been excellent really. So, if you are looking for 6 cylinders, look hard at what is out there. BMW now uses 4 cylinders in some 5 series!
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Clearly, my bit of light sarcasm did not come through (sarcasm being the lowest form of humour). My point is not that the BMW or Mercedes or...4 cylinder engines are good- of course they are- that is beside the point. The point is the OP's complaint that Jaguar is installing 4 cylinder engines now in its base models - and that in some way this is "emasculating", with the implication that an Ingenium 4 cylinder Jaguar is below the offerings of a "beemer or a Lincoln" or that Jaguar is out of step with its rivals. Nothing could be further from the truth. But if you want a supercharged V6 or even a V8, Jaguar has them - they just cost more (and this too is industry-standard behaviour).
I agree. Well stated. I avoided a BMW 5 series with the 4. I see MB has them too. I have V6, not perfect and a bit coarse at some rev points but stronger than the 4s overall imho. But economy rules these days.
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I too hate the shrinking engines in the new lineup. Grateful for my SC V6 in my 2016 r-sport. I think I might go XE next time, if the options are the same because then I can get the S with everything I want for mid $50's USD, whereas the same engine/trim level in the XF clocks in at around $72K
I might advise caution re choosing an XE or an XF. Totally different cat! XF is quieter inside with better sound isolation from door seals(3) to windows etc. I drove an XE for a while. Great and better than BMW 3 series but not same as XF.
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