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Old Mar 29, 2024 | 03:31 PM
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Evening all, I recently been working on the Audio system on my Daimler Six 1994 and after getting all that working now for some unknown reason the Dashboard lights to not switch of when taking the ignition key out and sometimes the steering lock does not come on. I have also noticed that the Cigarette lighter socket has also stopped working ?

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PS the Audio system works a treat LOL
 
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Old Mar 29, 2024 | 03:49 PM
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When pulling the key out it makes the pin 4 to pin 5 which is a car frame ground

This linier switch can stick

The pin 5 to car frame ground could have been disturbed somewhere behind the dash

To test this pin 4 to 5 , does the seat and steering column move on key removal ? the large rotary knob on the steering column must be in auto


 
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Old Mar 29, 2024 | 03:57 PM
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I will test this in the Morning. When you say the plug may have been disturbed is this plug behind the radio?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2024 | 05:59 PM
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The functional test is easiest and first

The most probable is the ground stud for wire on pin 5 , you dash lights may share this ground stud

The ignition switch connector in the pic is when removing the small curved panel under the steering column , column / car's left side

5 wires so easy to identify

The pic is the switch side of the connector that the switch does not need to be removed

The car side of the connector is mounted on a dash bracket and can be lifted straight up to remove to have the work out at you

The pin 5 wire color is common Black

Should have as close to 0 resistance to car frame ground

Look for corrosion in the connector ( spilled fluids )
 

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Old Mar 29, 2024 | 06:08 PM
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" steering lock does not come on "

is the key lock actuator and relay controlled by not in park switch

You can slightly move the shift lever out of the park gate and a finger on the key barrel should feel a click

See page 89


jagrepair.com/images/AutoRepairPhotos/jagxj1996.pdf
 

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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 02:53 PM
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Hello,

So the steering lock is all working
The Electric string coloum works and on auto setting retracts away
But now the issue is the Illumination still stays on and
The Wiper will not stop when I press it down for intermittent use and when I dod manage to get it to park it parks in random places

90's car electrics enough to fry your head.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 05:09 PM
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Wiper switch stalk has a history of the wires coming off , resolder

Easier thing is the 2 wiper relays swap with one other then a wiper


 

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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 05:16 PM
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Hello Sir,

Is it worth me getting this to solve Illumination on dashboard dials staying on ?>
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303981473...&ul_noapp=true
 
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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 05:51 PM
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Hold off as there may be some free things to check

Researching

There is a full bright dash lights selection on the small knob on the steering column
 

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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 05:52 PM
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Thank you for your assistance it is greatly appreciated
 
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Old Mar 30, 2024 | 10:05 PM
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Large # 5 right relay is not a swapping option so best leave that one alone

It is the 2nd power for the engine ECU used at all times so you don't want to induce a engine stall

There has been reports from reading of the stalk switch wiring as it goes through the steering column chafing and damaged
 

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Old Apr 6, 2024 | 08:41 AM
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Ok Guys,

I am working my way through the Gremlins only a few left to sort:
  1. Wiper does not park in the same spot - Random areas and wipers do not work as they should.
  2. The bulb warning light comes on as soon as I put the side lights on yet all bulbs are working. All front bulbs have been replaced
  3. I have ordered a replacement illumination control module which I hope will solve the dashboard illumination staying on - For the time being, I just unplugged the dimmer switch which seemed to prevent the lights from staying on
  4. Now the anti-lock light comes on once the vehicle goes above 15 mph - I have checked the resistance on the rear ABS sensors and they seem to be all working fine. I have also removed, cleaned, and refitted the multi-pin plug under the ABS pump.

Any ideas or help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2024 | 05:41 PM
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Look for code C19 something

Do not remove wheel sensors yet , fragile plastic body and expensive replacement part

12.5 mph is the trigger point along with 2 or 3 drive cycles for dash warning



There is a wiper park switch inside the gearbox aft of the motor , size of the red button throw and polarity is important

Easier to ensure the articulating motion arms inside the large rectangular box is lubed
 

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Old Apr 7, 2024 | 03:46 AM
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There is a known issue with dry joints on the power connection inside the ABS module which causes the ABS light to come on.
See item #6 in this post which has a pdf of the repair method attached. it is not necessary to disconnect the hydraulic brake lines as the electronic module can be removed from the hydraulics by levering the ABS unit upwards and removing the two Torx T20 bolts at the bottom that secure the electronic module. Not easy to access but better than removing the brake lines.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...though-144318/
 
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Old Apr 7, 2024 | 05:44 AM
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Thank you all for the help and advice.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2024 | 07:56 AM
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Although there is a precaution to the wheel sensors removal it is the first step to resolving ABS issues without a code reader

In the marked different color 4 pairs of sensor wires they will read 1300 ohms as a basic meter reading

If you spin the wheels in the correct direction , they will read about 1 volt AC

The brake switch is involved also , actually 2 switches in 1 package with 1 dedicated to the brake lights

This will be pin 20 on the ABS connector

In removing the sensors to clean the face of the sensor ( collects grease and metal debris interfering with the signal ) you can push out from the inside of the hub to remove them after soaking with some penetrate spray

If you pry too hard on the attaching mount ears from the outside it can seperate leaving the metal sensor cap and sensor in the hole

If you need a new sensor there are 2 different sensor group of 4 part #s during X300 production

A left sensor will not work on a right
 

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