XJ XJ6 / XJR6 ( X300 ) 1995-1997

while doing a rear brake job........

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Old Aug 11, 2024 | 02:36 PM
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ok, i have had my '95 XJ6 long enough to understand
NO ONE stocks most of the parts for this car anymore.
The patience needed to order and wait for the delivery,
sometimes...well I am dog better at it.

I ordered BREMBO Brake Pads for the front and rear.
Brembo NAO Ceramic Brake pads P36008N.
What was in the box is nothing like the pads on the car!

Has ANYONE had this happen to them?
 
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Old Aug 11, 2024 | 04:48 PM
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The front pads should be bigger ( ? ) and take a pic of received alongside an original from same front or rear
 

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This pic from the Brembo website part # P36008 ( no N suffex )

I know from reading the wheel pistons are bigger between front and rear and larger on the supercharged model

No N on their Brembo website search result

N may be natural color


 

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Old Aug 13, 2024 | 07:55 PM
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Parker 7 replied: "This pic from the Brembo website
part # P36008 (no N suffix) ...........No N on their
Brembo website search result. N may be natural color."


First, Thank You for a response.
Over 190 views and you were the only one to reply.


my pads that came off the rear off my '95 XJ6 (sadly no R)
Are
47 mm tall and 141 mm wide.
The ones I received in the Brembo Box
Are
44mm tall and 126mm long
and now you send me a pic from Brembo stating they are supposed to be
43mm tall and 123 long

BTW: "N" is for the NAO Ceramic Brake Pads.

There is my dilemma.
I just want the Brembo Ceramic that I have on the front in the back.

The Brembo catalog may be in error.
Or Jaguar did sum tin' goofy with U.S. spec'd XJ6's

On a side note: when I service writer, a certain Audi
4cylinder called for a certain battery. It never was correct.

Has anyone ran into this situation using these brake pads?
All U.S. bound Audi's of hat type had the V6 battery. The catalogs never indicated that.


 
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Old Aug 13, 2024 | 08:21 PM
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Ran into the same parts not correct on a VW beetle and Chevy light truck

Thinking of next step
 
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The braking gripping power should be a relationship of the pad only area and the diameter of the brake wheel cylinder bore ( force derived by the same brake fluid pressure and same bore )

There are some bore differences in the X300s from reading others

The difference between old school asbestos and ceramic as they have different coefficients of drag . to have the same stopping power would be higher or lower in contact pad area

Brake fading factor has to come into play
 

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Old Aug 13, 2024 | 09:13 PM
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The photo at Rock Auto shows that the rear Brembo 36008N look like this:




They show that the Pagid 355006841 pads look like this:





And they show the Akebono EUR688 look like this:




How do these photos compare to the pads in your car and the Brembos you received?

Cheers,

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Old Aug 13, 2024 | 10:43 PM
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The Akebono EUR688's are the winner!!

I find it "special" that 3 different vendors have 3 different pads for the same car?!?!

 
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If the task was so easy , everyone would be doing it
 
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Originally Posted by Gottabekidding
The Akebono EUR688's are the winner!!




I recommend you replace front and rear at the same time. Or at least be prepared to replace the fronts as well.

Akebono ceramics are great. I had 'em on my XJR/6. But the friction characteristics are, IMO, unique. Unlike any other pad I've used. Enough so that you might end up with quite an imbalance of stopping power/braking characteristics, front versus rear. TBH, this is something that I typically never fuss over but, in this case, I thought was worth mentioning.

Cheers
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Old Aug 14, 2024 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gottabekidding


The Brembo catalog may be in error.
Or Jaguar did sum tin' goofy with U.S. spec'd XJ6's

On a side note: when I service writer, a certain Audi
4cylinder called for a certain battery. It never was correct.

Has anyone ran into this situation using these brake pads?
.
Well, cataloging errors do occur and parts application databases can get corrupted over the years.

In this particular case I suspect X308 listings might've become co-mingled with X300 listings.

All X300s used the same brake parts regardless of engine or market. OTOH, X308s had three variations

Cheers
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Old Aug 14, 2024 | 09:02 AM
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I have Akebono ceramics on all of my vehicles: Jags, Audi, BMW, even my RAM work van. I agree with Doug - you'll find the brake pedal requires a little more effort than with pads that have more bite. But they stop perfectly well, and I love the minimal brake dust they generate. Your wheels will stay much cleaner-looking.

Cheers,

Don
 
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