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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 06:16 AM
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This has been a problem ever since I purchased the vehicle but now that it’s entering rainy season I have no choice but to do so.

As far as I know the main problem that could cause this is a bad solder points within the ABS module. But this seems to be a tedious task considering all the brake lines and how tight the working area is, so my question for you all is what are some other things that could cause this.

No codes except what appears on the dash.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 07:39 AM
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It will have codes, just your scanner can't see them. It'll throw a code to cause the message on the dash, but cheap scanners that only do engine codes won't see them.

It's often an ABS sensor, the harness to them or the module - all throw the same code per wheel though as all the ECU knows is it can't see the sensor.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 12:09 PM
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Lots of threads on this issue; I think I have even written a novel.

Flickering ASC light


Bottom line: you can beat yourself to death removing tires, cleaning or replacing wheel sensors, etc and still not find the problem. You need to find a tech who can read the C codes to identify the problem. Most good brake shops can replace the control unit (rebuilding is available - check on-line); so are replacement sensors and connector wires. But lots of work with no guarantee without the exact fault codes.
 

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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jhartz
Lots of threads on this issue; I think I have even written a novel.

Flickering ASC light


Bottom line: you can beat yourself to death removing tires, cleaning or replacing wheel sensors, etc and still not find the problem. You need to find a tech who can read the C codes to identify the problem. Most good brake shops can replace the control unit (rebuilding is available - check on-line); so are replacement sensors and connector wires. But lots of work with no guarantee without the exact fault codes.
After reading your post it seems we had similar problems. I feel fairly certain it’s the ABS module and both rear WSS as these are the codes I was able to pull with the new code reader.




I couldn’t find what this code meant if someone could help!

i don’t know if this is related but was on the list
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 02:59 PM
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I would inspect the rear link harnesses for continuity.
Wheel Speed Sensors RARELY fail.(unless the wheel bearings fail and physically damage the sensors or reluctor wheel/rotor)
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 09:20 PM
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I had exactly this problem/symptom on my 2001 XJR. The issue was indeed with the ABS unit; I actually had my dealer remove the ABS unit for me, sent it for resoldering, and had the dealer reinstall it. Problem solved - this is a very common issue.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2024 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by motorcarman
I would inspect the rear link harnesses for continuity.
Wheel Speed Sensors RARELY fail.(unless the wheel bearings fail and physically damage the sensors or reluctor wheel/rotor)
These are the reading I got back

The first two photos is the driver side harness. It showed 2 different ohms when switched, I don’t know if that means something (im terrible with electrical)

Third photo is of the actual sensor.

0.550

1.045

0.001
The sensors seemed dirty so I cleaned them but did nothing to help.


Passenger side

0.553

1.046

.001
Are these within range or are they off?
 

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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Hooli
It will have codes, just your scanner can't see them. It'll throw a code to cause the message on the dash, but cheap scanners that only do engine codes won't see them.

It's often an ABS sensor, the harness to them or the module - all throw the same code per wheel though as all the ECU knows is it can't see the sensor.
this is what my awesome mechanic at Werner elite said about mine on the driver's side front. I believe him. last time it was on, I had the passenger side hub assembly replaced and the new sensor shut it off.
initially I always took it as an early warning sign that bearings were going to need done (coincidentally enough mechanics told me that driver side bearing had a little play but wasn't too bad yet)
mines a 98 vanden plas so it could be different depending on year, sub model. however I find this to be the general rule of thumb with most modern vehicles
 

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