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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Although not listed for the xk its good to see that some companies are starting to make headers for us.

https://ardent-performance.com/colle...exhaust-header

 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 07:40 AM
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Here's the thread
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 10:17 AM
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Only thing......
XF totals sold - 60,000

XK totals sold - 16,000

Not really a market for mods.
Course those are US sales, but then again non-US owners fight bitterly to maintain OEM.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 01:59 PM
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Ardent, not to be confused with Arden.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2019 | 03:11 PM
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$2850 for headers is just "nuts". Aston Martin's V8 is very similar to Jaguars, yet headers for AM are less than $2000.

A friend owned TPIS, a mfg of headers for GM products. They were selling headers for about $1200; and their cost was about $800. They subcontracted to American Racing Headers at $600 ea.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2019 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rey
$2850 for headers is just "nuts". Aston Martin's V8 is very similar to Jaguars, yet headers for AM are less than $2000.

A friend owned TPIS, a mfg of headers for GM products. They were selling headers for about $1200; and their cost was about $800. They subcontracted to American Racing Headers at $600 ea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economies_of_scale
 
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Old Jul 23, 2019 | 11:04 AM
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The market for headers is very small to the point where there is virtually no potential economy of scale. For instance, in '04 & '05 production of Cadillac CTS-Vs was about 4000 units per year. My friend at TPIS was developing the first headers. His prototype cost about $2500 in time and material. He sold them for about $1200. His production was just 25 sets, and it took him several years to sell out.
My point is this: the header set shown above does not look particularly exotic in construction detail. I think one could have a custom set made for about $2000 or less.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2019 | 11:56 AM
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................ My point is this: the header set shown above does not look particularly exotic in construction detail. I think one could have a custom set made for about $2000 or less.
I've made a couple sets of custom headers, and it it NOT a fun thing to do. It takes a lot of time, trial fitting, changing and a ton of bending and welding. I'd not do that job again (if it wasn't for one of my projects) for less than $2000 no matter what. Of course that's a one-of-a-kind job with no existing anything with no set ending point and merely a flange to work from. A more mainstream deal may be a bit faster/easier, such as using existing parts/starting/ending points.
 

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Old Jul 23, 2019 | 12:49 PM
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I know Velocity AP tried developing headers for the F-Type, but couldn't get the HP-to-$ ratio where they wanted it. Can't remember if they were for the V6 or the V8 though. I thought FrickenJag was making headers too at some point, but not sure how far that went either.
 

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