Killer Chiller
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I have had one on my 2000 XKR for about 4 years. I highly recommend it as it really lowers the tem pin the supercharger. The problem is that you will be doing a true custom install. The most efficient way will include eliminating the supercharger radiator as well as isolating the cooling system. You will also need to increase the capacity of the cooling system with some sort of reservoir with a second pump & reservoir.
Have you considered a water methanol injection system?
Have you considered a water methanol injection system?
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Methanol injectin?
I have had one on my 2000 XKR for about 4 years. I highly recommend it as it really lowers the tem pin the supercharger. The problem is that you will be doing a true custom install. The most efficient way will include eliminating the supercharger radiator as well as isolating the cooling system. You will also need to increase the capacity of the cooling system with some sort of reservoir with a second pump & reservoir.
Have you considered a water methanol injection system?
Have you considered a water methanol injection system?
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This is the system I use on my car with the tank mounted in the trunk. If you read thru the website it explains the system.The Best Water injection system and water methanol injection systems at AlcoholInjectionSystems.com
There is also Snow Performance.Snow Performance : Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection Systems. The Best Most Accurate Gas and Diesel Water Methanol Injection Strategies for Fuel Injected Carbureted Turbocharged Supercharged As well as Aquamist
Water injection systems, Methanol injection systems : Aquamist
This should give you an overview of water methanol injection.
There is also Snow Performance.Snow Performance : Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection Systems. The Best Most Accurate Gas and Diesel Water Methanol Injection Strategies for Fuel Injected Carbureted Turbocharged Supercharged As well as Aquamist
Water injection systems, Methanol injection systems : Aquamist
This should give you an overview of water methanol injection.
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SoCal Babe (02-02-2014)
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Also consider AEM for water/methanol charge cooling. I use one on my modern 6.1L Challenger w/centrifugal blower @ ~7 psi, very effective. Nice failsafe options, should you choose to tune for additional power with the spray...
AEM Water/Methanol Injection Kits - Water-Meth Injection Systems for Turbo/Super - Wideband O2 UEGO, Water/Methanol, Stand Alone Engine Management, Piggyback F/IC, Tru Boost Controller, Gauges, Automotive Performance Electronics
Rich
AEM Water/Methanol Injection Kits - Water-Meth Injection Systems for Turbo/Super - Wideband O2 UEGO, Water/Methanol, Stand Alone Engine Management, Piggyback F/IC, Tru Boost Controller, Gauges, Automotive Performance Electronics
Rich
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Aquamist (Aquamist systems - aquamist-direct.com) is the best available for a street driven car. I would highly recommend you look at them. They also have a forum for more information...
In a nutshell it reduced the engine temp but it can also cause some cars to retard timing and have similar effects to running higher octane fuel. Many use it as a safety net for questionable tuning. The 5.0 does a great job at cooling from the factory but a meth/water injection would further reinforce cooling and it is not supposed to add power - however it will make the engine pull harder. Some debate freeing up power vs adding power... semantics. Also, it's quite easy and practical to use your windshield wiper reservoir as the tank since windshield wiper fluid is nothing more than water with meth mixture.
In a nutshell it reduced the engine temp but it can also cause some cars to retard timing and have similar effects to running higher octane fuel. Many use it as a safety net for questionable tuning. The 5.0 does a great job at cooling from the factory but a meth/water injection would further reinforce cooling and it is not supposed to add power - however it will make the engine pull harder. Some debate freeing up power vs adding power... semantics. Also, it's quite easy and practical to use your windshield wiper reservoir as the tank since windshield wiper fluid is nothing more than water with meth mixture.
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SoCal Babe (02-03-2014)
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The people at Mina say that your don't even need a tune with the pulley since the ECU is "smart enough" to recognize it and auto adjust.
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We all know that is not true as the ecu will bleed off boost. The only way to realize the increase in boost is with a tune.
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Why? I have a huge post complete with before and after dyno numbers and AFR's. I have had the Eurocharged tune now for months (others have had it longer) with no ill-effects or any issues at all for that matter. It is one of the best out of the box tunes I have ever had.
And to go from 480 rwhp to 540 rwhp for $1000 dollars is hardly a premium..its a STEAL!
I'm not trying to make an argument but I am very confused by your statements, that's all.
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Jaxkr (02-04-2014)
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I've seen you elude to this several times recently.
Why? I have a huge post complete with before and after dyno numbers and AFR's. I have had the Eurocharged tune now for months (others have had it longer) with no ill-effects or any issues at all for that matter. It is one of the best out of the box tunes I have ever had.
And to go from 480 rwhp to 540 rwhp for $1000 dollars is hardly a premium..its a STEAL!
I'm not trying to make an argument but I am very confused by your statements, that's all.
Why? I have a huge post complete with before and after dyno numbers and AFR's. I have had the Eurocharged tune now for months (others have had it longer) with no ill-effects or any issues at all for that matter. It is one of the best out of the box tunes I have ever had.
And to go from 480 rwhp to 540 rwhp for $1000 dollars is hardly a premium..its a STEAL!
I'm not trying to make an argument but I am very confused by your statements, that's all.
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Running on the dyno and on the street are very different. My ECU is stock so my only source of information is second hand... Max stated that his tune lost steam up top when he ran the 1/4 mile. I can't find them right now but others have mentioned running a little rich (waaaay better than going lean) also on different tunes. It just scares me to get a tune on a car like this and not have it be perfect out of the gate.
I agree it is rich, but so is the stock tune. Its a nice safety feature and I'm still putting out good power.
Last edited by Matt in Houston; 02-04-2014 at 09:38 AM.
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Fair enough....I know Maxima has the RICA tune which is probably a bit different than mine, as I have not noticed anything of the sort. In fact at high RPMS even in 4th gear it is pulling so hard I have to be careful to not bounce on the limiter if I am using the paddles. It pulls amazingly hard throughout the RPM band. From what I can see, my tune has been perfect out of the gate. And I have had many tuned cars, from Softronix, MTI, Vision Function, DP Tuner (F-250). The Eurocharged tune has been excellent for me.
I agree it is rich, but so is the stock tune. Its a nice safety feature and I'm still putting out good power.
I agree it is rich, but so is the stock tune. Its a nice safety feature and I'm still putting out good power.
Just to clarify - I'm not an expert and my car has the factory tune so I am just going off other consumer reviews.
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Rica is a Europe based tuner and they have a very, very good reputation. One of the few that has a history of conservaitive claims on performance gains.
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Yup, I know who RICA is, I just don't know anything about their Jaguar 5.0L SC tune. All I have is first hand experience with Eurocharged.
As for street manors, from what I understand the tune is based on the stock XKR-S tune, not a freshly re-written tune. The street manors are perfect as is the idle and slow driveablity, something I had issues with on the custom MTI tune on the vette and the Vision Function tune on the Lotus.
I must say so far my "out of the box" tunes have actually out-performed my custom dyno/street tunes. Seems strange but that has been my experience.
Sorry if this became a thread jack!
As for street manors, from what I understand the tune is based on the stock XKR-S tune, not a freshly re-written tune. The street manors are perfect as is the idle and slow driveablity, something I had issues with on the custom MTI tune on the vette and the Vision Function tune on the Lotus.
I must say so far my "out of the box" tunes have actually out-performed my custom dyno/street tunes. Seems strange but that has been my experience.
Sorry if this became a thread jack!
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