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Old 05-15-2011, 07:13 AM
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Default roof need to open without the pump

hi yesterday when I close my roof on my xk8 2006 a part from the roof fall down, and now the messag on the bord is roof is unlocked so I need to open the roof ( the button dont want to work) and install the part (hook on the roof) and after hope the system work correctly

Its impossible to close the small windows to so need help please still raining for the next 3-4 days

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Old 05-15-2011, 09:07 AM
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If you want to manually open the roof, you need to pull back the trim on the right side of the trunk to access the pump for the top. On the pump assembly there is a small valve, that you need to open to release the hydrolic pressure to allow the top to be moved manually. It would be a good idea to check the fluid level there while you are looking at it.

Next to put the top down you need to remove the small cap at the top center of the windshield area where the latch is. Then use an allen wrench to open the header latch.

This website has some good pictures that might help you find the components.

JAGUAR ROOF HYDRAULIC PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE
 
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thank you very much

now I can open the roof and close it.
I install the missing part it but still the same message and the red light on CONVERTIBLE NOT LAUCHED

you tell me to check the fluid level but dont know where ?

thank you again I realy appreciat
 
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Old 05-15-2011, 02:43 PM
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The pump is behind the carpet panel around the CD changer. Just pull the carpet out.

You need to retrieve the hex wrench clipped to the pump base, and use it to manually latch the top. Also check the fluid while you are there. It should be between the two embossed horizontal lines. Remove the little plastic plug on the header fabric to get access to the manual latch. Once it is latched try a couple of full cycles and see if behavior returns to normal.
 
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The owner's manual has instructions with pictures on how to manually latch the roof.
 
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:51 PM
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thank you for evryone I got it.

all fix now and run perfectly

wow to all internet user on sunday

thankyou again

I'm happy now
 
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Does anyone have any ideas how one could convert the hydraulic system to raise the roof on a 99 xk8 to a manual system?? I've looked as the cost of repairing the lines and replacing the leaking rams and feel that the expense is not worth it for the 4 months of summer in Maine that i use the car. I have a mechanic that will give it a try if he can get more info on the system. I have not been able to get a real good web site to give me the specs on the hydraulic system. Does anyone out there know of any conversion kits? thanks, sam
 
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Old 08-24-2011, 02:47 PM
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If you insist in operating the roof manually you can do this by opening the windows electrically by pressing the open button and they will retract, open the petcock at the pump to release the hydraulic pressure, unlatch the latch at the header with the allen wrench, release both rams left and right by applying pressure to the top of the rams located behind the rear windows. Note: do not bend or force them you will reduce the integrity of the roof interlocking. Once you have done that you can now open the roof and retract the header latch with the allen wrench.

For info on the system go to my page at Auto Repair Should you have additional questions let me know.
 
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The problem you will run into is that Jaguar does NOT recommend lowering the top manually because you will bend/damage the top linkage unless you know where to press in at the link arms between the rear side windows and the back glass. If you do NOT press the link and start the locked hinge correctly, the metal will bend and you will be replacing the frame assy.

It can be done but if you force it you will regret it.

Rear the TSB about MANUAL CLOSING

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bob,
I was unable to open either of the pdf. files. I'm not exactly sure why. The forum says i don't have that authority? is there anyway you could email me the info. I really would like to gerryrig my top to a manual one soon.
 
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bob,
I was unable to open either of the pdf. files. I'm not exactly sure why. The forum says i don't have that authority? is there anyway you could email me the info. I really would like to gerryrig my top to a manual one soon.
I know that you are anxious to get started and we are anxious to meet you and talk about your car. We have a baseline / criteria that must be met before full access can be granted.

You need to go over to the new member section and give us an intro.
 
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OK first the disclaimer, I have no idea what I'm talking about so it may just be nonsense.

It seems that Samauger wants to disable his power top operation permanently because he doesn't want to shell out the $$$s.

So, if he was to drain the system and disconnect the hoses to the rams, how easy / difficult would it be to raise and lower with no hydraulic resistance? Would the latch be secure with on hydraulic assistance?

What electronics would need to be rigged to allow the windows etc to work normally?

I'm just thinking out loud, any comments?
 
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The key to this is that the rams must be extended and the latch closed to operate the windows closed. The latch must be opened and the rams unlocked to open the roof. If you unlatch the roof and force the roof open you stand to bend the frame and the roof will not open until the ram is unlocked. The ram on the right also has an electrical connection along with the header switches that control the windows. All of this works with the body processor and security system that makes it work. You can bypass the system with a modification to make the windows work but then the roof is not locked into place that is part of the design the integrity (safety) of the roof is reduced. My page has additional information.
 
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So basiclly you think I'm talking through a hole in my head?

I thought that may be the case.
 
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No not really. I see it this way, you want a rich man’s car on a poor mans budget! Wishful thinking!
 
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No not really. I see it this way, you want a rich man’s car on a poor mans budget! Wishful thinking!
Hold up there Gus, I was thinking aloud on behalf of Samauger, not myself.
 
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Wishful thinking, maybe but i'll see if i can devise a new type of latch. Thanks for all the ideas. Where there is a will, there is a way.
 
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Wishful thinking, maybe but i'll see if i can devise a new type of latch. Thanks for all the ideas. Where there is a will, there is a way.
Look at the 2007 MY XK
 
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Originally Posted by norri
Hold up there Gus, I was thinking aloud on behalf of Samauger, not myself.
It was not directed to you Norri!
 
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Gus,
Don't get me wrong, i'm just a practical guy. The way i look at it, the roof up or down doesn't impede the performance of the xk8. I just think that the poorly designed device to raise and lower it is a little obscenely expensive and totally unnecessary. I'm sure with a little American ingenuity we could come up with a better idea. After all, it is just a machine.
You have quite a nice collection of Jags. My xk8 is green with a tan top but i would be willing to trade it in for the silver one that you have. I would insert a pic if i knew how. I don't see anyplace to insert an attachment. Keep up the good work.
 
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