Two ticket for one violation. Help!
Hi guys do any of you receive two tickets for speeding? One is written by the officer, and another is sent by mail claiming is a camera ticket.
It is just so unlogical to pay twice for one violation.
All suggestions are appreciated!
It is just so unlogical to pay twice for one violation.
All suggestions are appreciated!
I'll leave the lecturing for those that genuinely never travel over the posted speed limit, be it knowingly or otherwise. 
You don't say what distance there was between the two positions at which your speed was measured for the two different tickets, but regardless you are guilty of two violations, if your speed is measured over twice. Where do you draw the line? If I travel at 100mph over 25 miles and get zapped by a camera after one mile, can I consider that no other law enforcement initiative will matter for the next 24 miles unless I drop below the speed limit then accelerate again? In the UK where cameras are common, people get several tickets along a continuous route and have to pay up. It can be considered a feature of the technology, I guess. Is it fair? In some cases yes. If the officer who caught you was intentionally hanging out close to a camera zone so you got hit twice, that would be sneaky but not necessarily illegal, and you would have a hard time proving it. With the help of a good lawyer, you can probably get it reduced to one ticket, but it might cost you more than paying up.
You don't say what distance there was between the two positions at which your speed was measured for the two different tickets, but regardless you are guilty of two violations, if your speed is measured over twice. Where do you draw the line? If I travel at 100mph over 25 miles and get zapped by a camera after one mile, can I consider that no other law enforcement initiative will matter for the next 24 miles unless I drop below the speed limit then accelerate again? In the UK where cameras are common, people get several tickets along a continuous route and have to pay up. It can be considered a feature of the technology, I guess. Is it fair? In some cases yes. If the officer who caught you was intentionally hanging out close to a camera zone so you got hit twice, that would be sneaky but not necessarily illegal, and you would have a hard time proving it. With the help of a good lawyer, you can probably get it reduced to one ticket, but it might cost you more than paying up.
As someone who routinely exceeds the speed limit, I'm sorry to say that you might be liable for both. The cop gave you a ticket under criminal law and the cameras fall under civil law. At least they do here in Texas.
If the laws are the same, the camera ticket won't count against your insurance (unless you volunteer that info to them) and it won't be used to assess any points against your license.
The ticket from the cop would count against your license and insurance unless you get permission to dismiss it with a defensive driving class. Taking the class will be as expensive as the ticket, but cheaper in the long run (insurance).
Google could help you with the local details and if you know a lawyer, that would really help.
Best of luck.
If the laws are the same, the camera ticket won't count against your insurance (unless you volunteer that info to them) and it won't be used to assess any points against your license.
The ticket from the cop would count against your license and insurance unless you get permission to dismiss it with a defensive driving class. Taking the class will be as expensive as the ticket, but cheaper in the long run (insurance).
Google could help you with the local details and if you know a lawyer, that would really help.
Best of luck.
Speeding tickets don't go against insurance here in MN. They only care about major offenses like drunk driving. At least that's how it is with State Farm here.
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I suppose that if the camera was situated 50yds further down the road from where the officer stopped you, you might be in with a shout.
Kinda doubt it though.
Chicken and Egg, must have been camera then Officer, you should have slowed right down after the camera.
Simply can't believe that after the Officer, you then jumped in your car and sped away.
Not going to lecture either.
Kinda doubt it though.
Chicken and Egg, must have been camera then Officer, you should have slowed right down after the camera.
Simply can't believe that after the Officer, you then jumped in your car and sped away.
Not going to lecture either.
I would suggest hiring a traffic lawyer located in the county in which you got the tickets. I think it's money well spent. Seven years ago, I got my only ticket in years and hired a lawyer who specialized in traffic tickets. She got it dismissed on a technicality. Ask local limousine drivers and do an internet search to find the right lawyer.
actually I was just 10 miles over speed limit.
Thank you for all the input!
I really appreciated that!
Thank you for all the input!
I really appreciated that!
I'll leave the lecturing for those that genuinely never travel over the posted speed limit, be it knowingly or otherwise. 
You don't say what distance there was between the two positions at which your speed was measured for the two different tickets, but regardless you are guilty of two violations, if your speed is measured over twice. Where do you draw the line? If I travel at 100mph over 25 miles and get zapped by a camera after one mile, can I consider that no other law enforcement initiative will matter for the next 24 miles unless I drop below the speed limit then accelerate again? In the UK where cameras are common, people get several tickets along a continuous route and have to pay up. It can be considered a feature of the technology, I guess. Is it fair? In some cases yes. If the officer who caught you was intentionally hanging out close to a camera zone so you got hit twice, that would be sneaky but not necessarily illegal, and you would have a hard time proving it. With the help of a good lawyer, you can probably get it reduced to one ticket, but it might cost you more than paying up.
You don't say what distance there was between the two positions at which your speed was measured for the two different tickets, but regardless you are guilty of two violations, if your speed is measured over twice. Where do you draw the line? If I travel at 100mph over 25 miles and get zapped by a camera after one mile, can I consider that no other law enforcement initiative will matter for the next 24 miles unless I drop below the speed limit then accelerate again? In the UK where cameras are common, people get several tickets along a continuous route and have to pay up. It can be considered a feature of the technology, I guess. Is it fair? In some cases yes. If the officer who caught you was intentionally hanging out close to a camera zone so you got hit twice, that would be sneaky but not necessarily illegal, and you would have a hard time proving it. With the help of a good lawyer, you can probably get it reduced to one ticket, but it might cost you more than paying up.
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