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Old 05-04-2015, 12:06 PM
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I have an intermittent Parking Break Error. It started in the cold weather. Since then I had the error twice when the weather warmed up. First happened while on the HH Parkway in NYC, various errors starting popping up as well while driving and these would come on and then go off as I was driving. The temp gage would go off ( needle would bury itself) then come back on but the temp was fine. I just had it appear again a month later during start up, I shut the car off and re-started and the error message didn't come on but the check engine light did.

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Best get those codes read before you start spending money. You mention other fault messages coming up too, what are they ? Sometimes this sort of thing is caused by a failing battery, but best to wait and see what the codes say.
 
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agreed +1. I just replaced a battery on my 05 XJ8 and then the error msg pop up. After driving few miles and then turn the ignition off then turn it on again. the msg gone..

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Best get those codes read before you start spending money. You mention other fault messages coming up too, what are they ? Sometimes this sort of thing is caused by a failing battery, but best to wait and see what the codes say.
The other error codes are DSC / Brake Fluid Low / Gear box error.
I went out this morning and none of them appeared only the Check Engine light was on.

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
 
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OK, but you need to go to a Jaguar shop and get the stored fault codes read and then interpreted ideally by somebody experienced in these cars and codes. A good independent is normally best as they tend to deal with cars no longer in production. Nothing wrong with the main agent if their mechanics are good, of course.

If it is saying Brake Fluid Low, have you had a look at the reservoir itself to see the actual level ?
 
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OK, but you need to go to a Jaguar shop and get the stored fault codes read and then interpreted ideally by somebody experienced in these cars and codes. A good independent is normally best as they tend to deal with cars no longer in production. Nothing wrong with the main agent if their mechanics are good, of course.

If it is saying Brake Fluid Low, have you had a look at the reservoir itself to see the actual level ?
Error Codes:
P1000, P1111, P1638, P1699

Break fluid halfway between Min & Max. They like it on Max.
 
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The other error codes are DSC / Brake Fluid Low / Gear box error.
I went out this morning and none of them appeared only the Check Engine light was on.

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
Error Codes:
P1000, P1111, P1638, P1699

Also, losing power steering.
 
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Something not right with your car, but I don't have a list of the codes. However, others do and will no doubt advise. The power steering has an electronic control of the driver effort so something common to all your symptoms is somewhere in your car !
 
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Originally Posted by jphurlman
Error Codes:
P1000, P1111, P1638, P1699

Break fluid halfway between Min & Max. They like it on Max.

Jim,

The Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) are all defined in the Workshop Manual, which you can download in six sections here:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/md...f+contents.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aa...nformation.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/n3...2.+Chassis.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9b...Powertrain.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0i...Electrical.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4j...+and+Paint.pdf

I am also attaching a summary of DTCs in pdf form.

Here are the definitions of your DTCs:

P1000 System checks not complete since last memory clear: you just need to drive the car for awhile for this code to go away. Ignore this code.

P1111 System checks complete since last memory clear: no action necessary. You can ignore this code.

P1638 CAN ECM/IC network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; IC failure; ECM failure

P1699 CAN ECM/A/CCM network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; A/CCM failure; ECM failure

ECM is the Engine Control Module. It is highly unlikely that it has failed.

A/CCM is the Air Conditioning Control Module.

The codes indicate a possible problem with the Controller Area Network (CAN), the network by which many of the car's modules communicate with one another. These types of codes are often triggered due to low battery voltage, loose or corroded electrical connectors or ground points, or a combination of those conditions. If you are still on your original battery, it would be worth checking the voltage while cranking the engine.

It would also be worth checking for water accumulation around the electrical connector for the ECM, which is below the plastic housing for the cabin microfilter on the engine bay bulkhead or firewall (passenger side on a LHD car). Leaves and seeds tend to collect in that area, where they plug the drain tube and allow water to pool around the connector, causing all sorts of hard-to-diagnose problems.

I note that all the codes you report are "P" or "Powertrain" codes. Did you obtain them with a standard OBDII scanner? If so, you may also have other Jaguar proprietary codes stored that the standard scanner cannot read. These codes would fall into the Chassis (C), Body (B) and Undefined (U, mostly network-related) categories. At the very least you probably have one or more U codes stored. To read those requires a Jaguar dealer-level system such as Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD) or a high-end third-party system like AutoEnginuity with the additional Jaguar module. Many good independent Jaguar specialist mechanics now have the ability to read the Jaguar-specific codes, and of course, all Jaguar dealers can.

Please keep us informed.

Cheers,

Don
 
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Jim,

The Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) are all defined in the Workshop Manual, which you can download in six sections here:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/md...f+contents.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aa...nformation.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/n3...2.+Chassis.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9b...Powertrain.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0i...Electrical.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4j...+and+Paint.pdf

I am also attaching a summary of DTCs in pdf form.

Here are the definitions of your DTCs:

P1000 System checks not complete since last memory clear: you just need to drive the car for awhile for this code to go away. Ignore this code.

P1111 System checks complete since last memory clear: no action necessary. You can ignore this code.

P1638 CAN ECM/IC network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; IC failure; ECM failure

P1699 CAN ECM/A/CCM network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; A/CCM failure; ECM failure

ECM is the Engine Control Module. It is highly unlikely that it has failed.

A/CCM is the Air Conditioning Control Module.

The codes indicate a possible problem with the Controller Area Network (CAN), the network by which many of the car's modules communicate with one another. These types of codes are often triggered due to low battery voltage, loose or corroded electrical connectors or ground points, or a combination of those conditions. If you are still on your original battery, it would be worth checking the voltage while cranking the engine.

It would also be worth checking for water accumulation around the electrical connector for the ECM, which is below the plastic housing for the cabin microfilter on the engine bay bulkhead or firewall (passenger side on a LHD car). Leaves and seeds tend to collect in that area, where they plug the drain tube and allow water to pool around the connector, causing all sorts of hard-to-diagnose problems.

I note that all the codes you report are "P" or "Powertrain" codes. Did you obtain them with a standard OBDII scanner? If so, you may also have other Jaguar proprietary codes stored that the standard scanner cannot read. These codes would fall into the Chassis (C), Body (B) and Undefined (U, mostly network-related) categories. At the very least you probably have one or more U codes stored. To read those requires a Jaguar dealer-level system such as Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD) or a high-end third-party system like AutoEnginuity with the additional Jaguar module. Many good independent Jaguar specialist mechanics now have the ability to read the Jaguar-specific codes, and of course, all Jaguar dealers can.

Please keep us informed.

Cheers,

Don
Don can't thank you enough for all your help. I will certainly keep you updated on the outcome.
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Originally Posted by Don B
Jim,

The Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) are all defined in the Workshop Manual, which you can download in six sections here:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/md...f+contents.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aa...nformation.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/n3...2.+Chassis.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9b...Powertrain.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0i...Electrical.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4j...+and+Paint.pdf

I am also attaching a summary of DTCs in pdf form.

Here are the definitions of your DTCs:

P1000 System checks not complete since last memory clear: you just need to drive the car for awhile for this code to go away. Ignore this code.

P1111 System checks complete since last memory clear: no action necessary. You can ignore this code.

P1638 CAN ECM/IC network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; IC failure; ECM failure

P1699 CAN ECM/A/CCM network malfunction: CAN open or short circuit; A/CCM failure; ECM failure

ECM is the Engine Control Module. It is highly unlikely that it has failed.

A/CCM is the Air Conditioning Control Module.

The codes indicate a possible problem with the Controller Area Network (CAN), the network by which many of the car's modules communicate with one another. These types of codes are often triggered due to low battery voltage, loose or corroded electrical connectors or ground points, or a combination of those conditions. If you are still on your original battery, it would be worth checking the voltage while cranking the engine.

It would also be worth checking for water accumulation around the electrical connector for the ECM, which is below the plastic housing for the cabin microfilter on the engine bay bulkhead or firewall (passenger side on a LHD car). Leaves and seeds tend to collect in that area, where they plug the drain tube and allow water to pool around the connector, causing all sorts of hard-to-diagnose problems.

I note that all the codes you report are "P" or "Powertrain" codes. Did you obtain them with a standard OBDII scanner? If so, you may also have other Jaguar proprietary codes stored that the standard scanner cannot read. These codes would fall into the Chassis (C), Body (B) and Undefined (U, mostly network-related) categories. At the very least you probably have one or more U codes stored. To read those requires a Jaguar dealer-level system such as Symptom Driven Diagnostics (SDD) or a high-end third-party system like AutoEnginuity with the additional Jaguar module. Many good independent Jaguar specialist mechanics now have the ability to read the Jaguar-specific codes, and of course, all Jaguar dealers can.

Please keep us informed.

Cheers,

Don

Don my battery date code is 13-03. OMG Getting a new battery today will use the manual to disconnect and connect. Wish me luck. I will do the ECM idle learning procedure as well and the park break reset. Press brake, On-off-On.
 
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Don my battery date code is 13-03. OMG Getting a new battery today will use the manual to disconnect and connect. Wish me luck. I will do the ECM idle learning procedure as well and the park break reset. Press brake, On-off-On.
Don I changed the battery and the error codes came back. should I just try to run it a couple of times and see if they clear or just bring to the dealer.
I am tempted to have the throttle body changed as that has worked for others.
 
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Don I changed the battery and the error codes came back. should I just try to run it a couple of times and see if they clear or just bring to the dealer. I am tempted to have the throttle body changed as that has worked for others.

Hi Jim,

Buying parts you're not certain that you need can get very expensive and frustrating if the problem is not resolved.

Personally, I would clear the codes and see if any of them reappear. If any do, check the Workshop Manual for diagnostic procedures to track down the cause of each code.

Cheers,

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Battery tests first but also check this TSB out

http://www.jagrepair.com/images/TSB/...%20Cluster.pdf

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The codes went away and left just the check engine light, went to work and no lights, no yellow or red either. Came out of work and the check engine still there. Went to work today with check engine light on, came out to leave and no check engine light, clean all the way home. I didn't turn anything on like radio or AC. If same tomorrow I will wait another day before turning accessories on. I am not a mechanic and certainly not one with electrical experience so the help and pin connection information is something I will forward to my independent garage, international facility with Benz, Ferrari's etc and owner drives a X350 series Jag.

If the check engine light went out does that mean all of the codes have reset and I don't have to wait a couple of days not using accessories? I told you I was no mechanic.
 
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The cause has gone away long enough that the MIL has gone back off. The code(s) remain stored (harmlessly) for a long time to allow diagnosis. You can drive as you like but I'd get an OBD tool ASAP to find out what the codes are.
 
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